We did pretty much the same as Pete. We bought a new light weight folding ladder on sale. I watched a house inspector who was over 350 pounds go up the “fold down” I had to look the other way as the fold down bent and creaked. And guess what because it’s easy to carry (has a safe handle) and is light weight we use it safely(at least so far after 5 years). Merry Christmas!Hi.Viv i had one of them pull down.it was a bit iffy i pulled it down once and it come down on my head..so i took it down and have now got a step ladder that can be used as a conventional ladder as well. when not in use it goes in the shed.