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st.evenlucy
master brummie
Anyone see the picture in last nights Mail ?? it said that this building is in Cardigan Street!! surely it is in Belmont Row !!or is my memory playing tricks ??
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Re: belmont row /cardigan st
There is no doubt that the premises built for Coopers Bicycle factory was in Belmont Row, the thing is that they have altered and changed around so many of the street names in that area, it is possible that it is now called Cardigan Street
There is no doubt that the premises built for Coopers Bicycle factory was in Belmont Row, the thing is that they have altered and changed around so many of the street names in that area, it is possible that it is now called Cardigan Street
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guilbert53
master brummie
I would say it is in Belmont Row, certainly most of the building runs along Belmont Road.
However one end of the building does sort of join on to Cardigan Street so maybe it had a ADDRESS of Cardigan St, even though most of the building was on Belmont row.
As far as I know most of the street names are the same in that area, though some streets have been "lost" or shortened.
For example Nova Scotia Street went a couple of years ago when they built the Ormiston Academy in that area.
Also Gopsal St and Penn St may be soon "lost" or pedestrianized when the build the Birmingham City Phase (BCU) 2 building along Cardigan St.
However one end of the building does sort of join on to Cardigan Street so maybe it had a ADDRESS of Cardigan St, even though most of the building was on Belmont row.
As far as I know most of the street names are the same in that area, though some streets have been "lost" or shortened.
For example Nova Scotia Street went a couple of years ago when they built the Ormiston Academy in that area.
Also Gopsal St and Penn St may be soon "lost" or pedestrianized when the build the Birmingham City Phase (BCU) 2 building along Cardigan St.
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Re: belmont row /cardigan st
Belmont Row ran from Ashted Row to Curzon Street, Cardigan Street ran from Belmont Row to Curzon Street on the opposite side of the road to the Cycle factory so in no way could it ever be classed as being on Cardigan Street. Unless as I said before they have been playing about with the street names again.
Belmont Row ran from Ashted Row to Curzon Street, Cardigan Street ran from Belmont Row to Curzon Street on the opposite side of the road to the Cycle factory so in no way could it ever be classed as being on Cardigan Street. Unless as I said before they have been playing about with the street names again.
st.evenlucy
master brummie
Thanks Phil . it seems that even if they have kept some of the old Street names, they have slightly altered the position of many of them, but why ?? I find it more confusing than changing the names completely, It must be my age.
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Re: belmont row /cardigan st
St evenlucy,
It is even more confusing when you knew the streets and building well, around that area they have really had a field day with the street names. I used to live a short walk away in Francis St, the original street has now gone and the bit that has been rebuilt now consists of Francis St and Henry St. It would have made more sense to call it Henry Francis St or Francis Henry St.
St evenlucy,
It is even more confusing when you knew the streets and building well, around that area they have really had a field day with the street names. I used to live a short walk away in Francis St, the original street has now gone and the bit that has been rebuilt now consists of Francis St and Henry St. It would have made more sense to call it Henry Francis St or Francis Henry St.
guilbert53
master brummie
Re: belmont row /cardigan st
If you look at Google Maps you can clearly see the factory is where Belmont Row comes off of Cardigan St.
The Northern corner of the factory could be considered ON Cardigan St.
Another web site says it used to be the factory of the ECCLES RUBBER AND CYCLE COMPANY and the factory at that time was known as the Belmont Row Works on Cardigan Street.
See picture here showing how close it is to Cardigan St.
If you look at Google Maps you can clearly see the factory is where Belmont Row comes off of Cardigan St.
The Northern corner of the factory could be considered ON Cardigan St.
Another web site says it used to be the factory of the ECCLES RUBBER AND CYCLE COMPANY and the factory at that time was known as the Belmont Row Works on Cardigan Street.
See picture here showing how close it is to Cardigan St.
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Re: belmont row /cardigan st
Sorry Guilbert, but Belmont Row used to finish at Ashted Row/ Prospect Row, and that top part behind the old Gosta Green Market was Belmont Row. Here is a bit of the early history of the building before it was taken over by the Co-op. It is listed in every copy of Kelly's as being on Belmont Row. As I have said I cannot vouch that it is still the same today, but when the building was built it was.
New Cooper Cycle Fitting Co of Belmont Row, Birmingham
1897 Company formed George Cooper and Harvey Church. Took over the premises in Belmont Row formerly of Cooper and Young
1899 Company failed and the premises taken over by Eccles Rubber and Cycle Co
Sorry Guilbert, but Belmont Row used to finish at Ashted Row/ Prospect Row, and that top part behind the old Gosta Green Market was Belmont Row. Here is a bit of the early history of the building before it was taken over by the Co-op. It is listed in every copy of Kelly's as being on Belmont Row. As I have said I cannot vouch that it is still the same today, but when the building was built it was.
New Cooper Cycle Fitting Co of Belmont Row, Birmingham
1897 Company formed George Cooper and Harvey Church. Took over the premises in Belmont Row formerly of Cooper and Young
1899 Company failed and the premises taken over by Eccles Rubber and Cycle Co
st.evenlucy
master brummie
The University has changed the area so much, it's hard to work it out, The Belmont works and The black horse are among the only landmarks I recognise. Is the uni. and all the student accommodation Bigger than Birmingham Uni in Edgebaston ? It now reaches from Aston Street ( Plus student accommodation the other side of Aston Street ) If you walk through the grounds it is Like a little village in its own right down to Curzon Street. I find it unbelievable for such a large area to change so much.
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
This rather poor old photo shows the junction of Belmont Row, Prospect Row and Ashted Row. The one side of Belmont Row was the start of Ashted Row, the café was number 1 Ashted Row. The other corner and the old Gosta Green market building was Prospect Row. On the other side of the road Ashted Row finished at the Black Horse & Woodcock St.
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st.evenlucy
master brummie
you've done it again Phil, thanks you have explained it really well
ellbrown
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I think that the University of Birmingham is bigger (at Edgbaston). Plus they also have a campus in Selly Oak!
Aston University basically covers all the Aston Triangle land. Pubs near Aston Uni include the Sack of Potatoes and the Gosta Green. They converted the former cinema into something else (with extension).
Birmingham City University have already opened the Parkside Building, and are having their second Eastside building built right now! Once complete, they will move out of the old Perry Barr campus.
Future of the Belmont works article https://www.birminghampost.co.uk/bu...-works-set-new-10950350#ICID=FB-BirmPost-main
Looks like the tower will be wholly replaced and two gabled walls will have to be demolished (you can see one in Ell's 4th photo in post #47). Demolition of these parts due to extreme fire damage. Glad the tower will at least be replaced rather than disappear altogether. Viv.
Looks like the tower will be wholly replaced and two gabled walls will have to be demolished (you can see one in Ell's 4th photo in post #47). Demolition of these parts due to extreme fire damage. Glad the tower will at least be replaced rather than disappear altogether. Viv.
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Green light given for renovation work to go ahead. https://www.birminghampost.co.uk/bu...y/green-light-renovation-major-asset-10985599
viv
viv
Has anything happened on the Belmont Works site yet ? Hope work has started because the longer it stays derelict the more vulnerable it becomes. Viv.
That's not sounding good Lyn. Is it all tied up with HS2 plans ? Viv.
reading this thread with interest and i did take some photos a few week back so will sort them out and post them but its bought to mind that i had rellies at no 87 cardigan st in.1911...until i looked at the map i didnt realise that the well known AB was so close
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horsencart
master brummie
OuterCircleBus
master brummie
I thought I'd kickstart this thread again, as it seems there is some work going on. Last year Birmingham City University (BCU) published a drawing of the proposed building for the Belmont Works site incorporating the original facade. Work is due to be completed by 2021. Scaffolding has now gone up to support the facade, presumably whilst work starts to create the new building. Work has started to remove the square water tower that was not part of the original building.
guilbert53
master brummie
Funnily enough I went up to Birmingham on Sunday (in the rain) and took a couple of photos of this building and I was going to post them today.
