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Bell and Nicholson Drapers' Warehouse Department Store

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Does anyone have any information on this establishment or employees at all ?
One of my relatives used to work here from 1936 onwards as a telephonist, and I am trying to find records of who else was employed by the company at the time, it would also be great to see a picture of the store !
Many Thanks
Michelle
 
hi michelle...not sure if this is of any help to you but in the 70s i worked for a warehouse company who did things like buttons..zips..cottons..needles etc...they were called bell nicholson and lunt and the premises was opposite the evening mail city centre....im just wondering if the lunt was added later and they are one and the same co..maybe worth your while trying to find out if they are still in business..if so they may have there own archives of previous workers and even photos of their old building...

lyn
 
Hi Lyn
Thanks for your replies
I'll follow up your lead ! Please let me know if you remember any other gems about it !
Cheers
M
 
When I met my ex OH in the 60s, he was working in the warehouse at Bell and Nicholson (later to become Bell, Nicholson and Lunt when they merged with Lunts, another wholesaler). He was promoted to being a rep on the road when, sadly, another rep was killed in an accident. We thought we were the bee's knees driving round in his company car - a vauxhall victor estate with a bench seat in the front.
 
Hi seabird, Did you ever come across a guy called John Robotham? (I think thats how he spelt his name) he was a rep for Bell & Nicholson in the late 1950s.
if my memory is correct his Dad rept; for Wendy Wools ,He was originaly from Nottingham but had moved to Sutton Oaks Rd Streetly Sutton Coldfield.
Good skater & Nottingham Panthers Ice Hockey Club Supported.
Any recall??????
 
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Hi Baron - sorry, no, I don't recall any names from Bell and Nicholson as I didn't get to meet many of ex's workmates from there. Shortly after his promotion to rep he moved onto a job working for the Ladybird agents who were based in the Rotunda - that would be in the mid to late 60s.
 
I worked in Cardiff Branch and went to Colmore Circus every Monday. I met my wife at Bells and we have now been married 35 years !
 
They had, I am sure a warehouse in the Torquay area during the 1960/70's and maybe later. I guess they had wholesale outlets in many other places seeing that Birmingham, Cardiff and Northampton have been mentioned.
A search only refers to this Forum and the intrusive Facebook and Friends of websites.
 
They had, I am sure a warehouse in the Torquay area during the 1960/70's and maybe later. I guess they had wholesale outlets in many other places seeing that Birmingham, Cardiff and Northampton have been mentioned.
A search only refers to this Forum and the intrusive Facebook and Friends of websites.

They had a few branches around the U.K. Plus of course warehouses such as Emlyn Lewis in Swansea, and Wilkinson Riddell Larkin who were in the group. I had to use a truck with Lawrence Bros upon it. So many were under that umbrella which eventually became Courtaulds Distributors. The new truck I had in Feb 76 was the first of Bell, Nicolson & Lunt's to be in the Courtaulds livery. It was then matching several companies in South Wales who had this livery. We had to carry goods sometimes from the Nottingham based Bradbury Greatrex who too must have been in the group. I think it must have been quite a large concern.
 
A great photo from John Ball's website and this extract from the 1962 Kelly's Directory.


Bell & Nicolson Ltd. who. drapers, Cannon ho. 18 Priory,
Ringway 4. T A " Textiles " ; Central 7055

 

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We worked on the roof of that building c1990 demolishing a parapet wall that ran all around the outer edge of the building from Steelhouse Lane to Corporation St. I think it was to enable the addition of that top floor. The reason I remember it is because of the complaints I had to deal with about the noise from Lloyds Bank computer department that was located in the building. Nobody else complained only them, and because of them we had to do the whole job by hand using no machinery.
 
I worked at Bell Nicholson Lunt at Priory Queensway in the early 70's. At reception was Linda Timbrell, Ann Boland and Lynn Bridges who handed out the customers order slips. Mr Law I think was in charge of security, an ex police officer. I remember some of the staff in the departments, Roger from the furniture department who married a customer from Polesworth, Mac I think was in menswear and Leo who handed out the customers purchases as they left the building.
I remember there were 2 caretakers who lived at the top of the building and there was Ron who wore a very smart navy blue uniform and guarded the rotating entrance door and lobby.
 
I worked at Bell`s for about 12 months starting mid 1957. I worked in the shirt department. Mr Law was the manager. There were three of us young men, one was Bob, the other a Johnny Fewins. I think he was related in some way to the actress Dora Bryan. There were three middle aged ladies (well they seemed middle aged to a twenty year old) and an under Manager. he taught me the pricing code. OFREDSWAYM. O was naught, F was 1, up to M being 9. That`s where I learned to wrap and string tie a pretty smart parcel.
 
A great photo from John Ball's website and this extract from the 1962 Kelly's Directory.


Bell & Nicolson Ltd. who. drapers, Cannon ho. 18 Priory,
Ringway 4. T A " Textiles " ; Central 7055
The wholesale drapery firm of Bell and Nicolsons grew from small Victorian beginnings to become one of the largest textile distribution companies in the country. B and N.jpgIts role was to supply the hundreds of small shopkeepers who were the main source of clothing, drapery and household goods for most people in the first half of the twentieth century. Small shop keepers would come to one of B&N’s warehouses, or be visited by one of its commercial travelers, and would place orders for goods that were then delivered by the company’s distinctive olive green vans.
John Macdonald Nicolson and Henry Bell jointly founded the company with Henry Bell, and Nicolson was its managing director for 40 years until his death in 1944, He studied the latest American retail, distribution and business methods and rather like his contemporary Gordon Selfridge applied these methods to an industry that was still often hide-bound by Victorian traditions. The firm prided itself on its relationship with its workers, providing various pension and welfare benefits that were ahead of its time, and creating a ‘family’ working environment that was often commented upon by visitors.
Bell and Nicolsons went from strength to strength as the century progressed. Their Cannon Street Warehouse was one of the largest blocks in the City, and 1936 the firm owned what was then the tallest building in Birmingham, Union Chambers. There were branches in Cardiff, Bristol, Nottingham, Stoke, Chester, and Belfast. But by the 1960’s the era of the small shop keeper, like that of the kelp gatherer of JMN’s grandparents, had passed. In high-streets across the country large retail chains which had their own distribution networks, were replacing the individual shopkeeper, and there was little need for independent wholesalers. However B&N’s still owned valuable real estate with offices and warehouses in most towns and cities in the Midlands and the North, and it was probably this that attracted the giant Courtauld corporation to buy out the company [albeit for a knock-down price] in the 1960’s. It soon became clear that Courtauld had bought B&N’s for its real estate value rather than to maintain a business that was shrinking year by year. Warehouses, offices and garages were sold off inexorable year by year, until by the late ‘70’s nothing remained of the business that my John Nicolson had spent most of his life building up.
In 1924 JMN bought ‘Winterbourne’, a large ‘Arts and Crafts’ house in the leafy suburb of Edgbaston, close to the University, which had been built in 1903 by the metal tycoon John Nettlefold, and over the next 20 years John Nicolson developed these into one of the most magnificent private spaces in the city. When JMN died in 1944 he bequeathed the house and gardens to the University of Birmingham on condition that they were well-maintained and remained open to the public. For many years Winterbourne was used by the University for the extra-mural department, as a botanical research centre, and as a women’s’ Hall of Residence. Whilst the gardens were maintained meticulously by the University, the interior of the house had taken on a rather shabby academic tattiness, but in 2010, after a major refurbishment costing several millions, Winterbourne was reopened in its original Edwardian splendour.
 
Bell and Nicolson

Hello Nick 42, I found your post about Bell and Nicolson of great interest as my Nicolson ancestors were from the same part of Skye as JMN's Nicolson roots. I believe the families are closely related. Are you also a descendant of the same family of Nicolsons? I look forward to hearing from you should you come back to the forum.
 
Bell & Nicolson Drapery Warehouse

Hi, would anyone have information about the Henry Bell who co-founded this company with John Nicolson.
Many thanks
 
'Nicolson' not 'Nicholson'. This wholesaling company had numerous branches all over the country and a large fleet of delivery vans and travelling salesmen serving mainly small shopkeepers. The small shops upon which it's prosperity had been based were a dying breed by the 1950's, and the company was It was sold to Courtaulds who wanted it mainly for the value of its real estate. The company's founder, John Macdonald Nicolson, gave Winterbourne, his large Edgbaston house and its gardens, to the University of Birmingham when he died in 1944.
 
Bell and Nicolson

Hello Nick 42, I found your post about Bell and Nicolson of great interest as my Nicolson ancestors were from the same part of Skye as JMN's Nicolson roots. I believe the families are closely related. Are you also a descendant of the same family of Nicolsons? I look forward to hearing from you should you come back to the forum.
Hello! Sorry it's taken me an age to get back to this site. I am Colin Nicolson the grandson of John Macdonald Nicolson. His family came from Peingown on the extreme north of the Isle of Skye, but in the 1850's they were were forced to emigrate because of famine and the collapse of the kelp-farming industry. They moved first to to Liverpool and then to Birmingham.
 
A great photo from John Ball's website and this extract from the 1962 Kelly's Directory.


Bell & Nicolson Ltd. who. drapers, Cannon ho. 18 Priory,
Ringway 4. T A " Textiles " ; Central 7055

Does anyone remember the "smart" jewellers that was just here? I think the building subsequently became Halfords. Perry Greaves or Mappin and Webb seem to ring bells.
 
Bell and Nicolson

Hello Nick 42, I found your post about Bell and Nicolson of great interest as my Nicolson ancestors were from the same part of Skye as JMN's Nicolson roots. I believe the families are closely related. Are you also a descendant of the same family of Nicolsons? I look forward to hearing from you should you come back to the forum.
Hi my son is the great grandson of JMN
 
Hello Michelle, I was delighted to read your message. I think my great grandfather, Angus Nicolson who died in 1901 in Skye, may have been a brother of John MacDonald Nicolson's grandfather. I also grew up in Skye where the Nicolson's of Bell and Nicolson originated. If you would like to get in touch with me outside the forum([email protected]) perhaps we could share family tree information. Katie
 
I worked at Bell Nicholson Lunt at Priory Queensway in the early 70's. At reception was Linda Timbrell, Ann Boland and Lynn Bridges who handed out the customers order slips. Mr Law I think was in charge of security, an ex police officer. I remember some of the staff in the departments, Roger from the furniture department who married a customer from Polesworth, Mac I think was in menswear and Leo who handed out the customers purchases as they left the building.
I remember there were 2 caretakers who lived at the top of the building and there was Ron who wore a very smart navy blue uniform and guarded the rotating entrance door and lobby.
Only just come across this post, my Dad used at Bell and Nicholson in the 70’s. His name was Len White, he used to look after the maintenance of the building and had a workshop at the top of the building, Jimmy Lang I think it was that was a caretaker. He and his family used to live in one of the flats there. I remember working there during school holidays, every night at 5 it was round to the pub next door in Steelhouse Lane for a couple of pints before driving home. A couple of other names you might remember, Norman Moore who was a rep and Johnny Paige who worked in the Loading Bay/Goods In.
 
Does anyone have any information on this establishment or employees at all ?
One of my relatives used to work here from 1936 onwards as a telephonist, and I am trying to find records of who else was employed by the company at the time, it would also be great to see a picture of the store !
Many Thanks
Michelle
I still have a fold over address pad from this warehouse as my parents used to get dfapery from there
 
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