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Ballads of Birmingham

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If you could call it "ancient". I inherited a sketchbook belonging to my father, he was a self educated man with an interest in Heraldry amongs other things. Born in Birmingham, he seemed to have an interest in the armorials of notable people related to Birmingham and surrounding area.
In the sketch book are numerous paintings of coats of arms, together with the written heraldic descriptions. A few are of William de Birmingham and Edward de Birmingham as well as John Rogers of Deritend and Lady Isabel de Edgbaston.
I noted that at least 3 of these drawings (namely; The Jennens family. Henry VI at Yardley and St Thomas's Priory, all had reference to
"A Ballad of Old Birmingham"
I know there is a modern verse called ballad of Birmingham written by Dudley Randall, but I can find no reference to the "Ballad of Old Birmingham" (not sure even if it relates to Birmingham the city of the family Birmingham)
Is there someone on this very informative site who can point me in the right direction. I would appreciate your help!
 
Hi Badger:

I can't help you with the Ballad unfortunately but someone else may know about it. For information on your father's sketch book of Coats of Arms,etc. have you been in contact with the College Of Arms in London.
Here is their web site if you haven't. https://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/About.htm
They have a super building right at the end of the new Thames River
Bridge across from the Tate Modern in London.
 
If you could call it "ancient". I inherited a sketchbook belonging to my father, he was a self educated man with an interest in Heraldry amongs other things. Born in Birmingham, he seemed to have an interest in the armorials of notable people related to Birmingham and surrounding area.
In the sketch book are numerous paintings of coats of arms, together with the written heraldic descriptions. A few are of William de Birmingham and Edward de Birmingham as well as John Rogers of Deritend and Lady Isabel de Edgbaston.
I noted that at least 3 of these drawings (namely; The Jennens family. Henry VI at Yardley and St Thomas's Priory, all had reference to
"A Ballad of Old Birmingham"
I know there is a modern verse called ballad of Birmingham written by Dudley Randall, but I can find no reference to the "Ballad of Old Birmingham" (not sure even if it relates to Birmingham the city of the family Birmingham)
Is there someone on this very informative site who can point me in the right direction. I would appreciate your help!

Hi there,
This may or may not be of any help but here goes;
I have a book by E. M. Rudland it's title is Ballads of Old Birmingham.
In it I have found 'The Jennens' Millions' 'Henry VI at Yardley' I havn't found any reference to St Thomas's Priory yet. I will see if I can scan the relevant pages for you.
 
Well there's service for you

Thank's pipone you're a star, and jennyann thanks for your suggestion, I will scan and post a couple of these drawings along with the "blazon" (description) to show that we know who these amorials are for and what they look like. I realy wanted to find out more about them and why my father was so interested.
Thanks for your help.
 
Well pipone came up trumps and solved two of the riddles, just looking for the third one......see illustration I posted. There must be a ballad called "the cursing of something john"
 
Hi there once again,
The third ballad 'The cursing of Frater John' has been sent to you.
"Your riddle is over and the pieces all fit"
Pipone
 
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If you're interested here is one puzzel solved, if you look at the illustration, and read the notes, the ballad becomes clear, and the notes put the final touches......

"I think" :rolleyes:

THE CURSING OF FRATER JOHN

O Frater John excommunicate
Unholy Prior and reprobate,

Thy priory of St Thomas’ name
Hath open and notorious shame

To Langton’s crozier bend in awe
Thy friars who know no rule or law

Their sins upon their heads they now
Before stern Langton bow.

Fall they before his fiery word
Their wakened hearts bestirred

Stand thou erect, stern Langton, stand
Thy crozier in thy hand

With mitre crowned, thy priestly dress
Dread with its dreadfulness

Rise Frater John of Appulton
Unworthy prior that thou atone

Unfrock thee, lay upon the ground
Thine office that is faithless found

Go forth let no man harbour thee
Or give thee any aid, May be

These brethren shall more fitly bear
The oaths thou did’st forswear”

In silence deep the prior arose
And cast upon the ground his clothes

Strode through the open door and turned
A man accursed and spurned

O kneeling friars fast ye and pray
To purge your sins away

NOTE
Frater John de Appulton, Prior of the Priory of St Thomas the Martyr, Birmingham.
Was excommunicated by Bishop Langton in about 1320 for irregularities.
The condition of the Priory at that time was deplorable.
Cursing of Frater John (Appulton of St Thomas’ Priory)
(Old ballad of Birmingham)
Symbolical of the act of excommunication
A Priors Bourdon, Biretta, Palmers Crutch & Flask and
Candle extinguisher
 
Its thanks to pipone for the solution, I've attached the Illustration here for you. I Googled etc but to no avail....so prey tell me...

Where is....or was....The Priory of St Thomas the Martyr in Birmingham ?
 
The Priory of St Thomas was situated in near where the Minories was - in other words where Lewis's was, now occupied by a Wetherspoon's drinks retail unit.
The Victorian map below is based on a survey of 1553, and it shows the location of the old Priory building, just about the time it was up for sale, the monasteries having been dissolved and taken over by the Crown nearly 30 years previously.
We used to have Upper and Lower Priory to remind us the place, but after Manzoni did his damage we only have Priory Ringway, and that's the other side of Corporation Street
Peter
 
I thought we should have the other ballards on this thread, so here goes;
The Jennens’ Millions
“By the hammer of Thor! By the hammer of Thor!”
Cried Jennens the smith as he smote the ore,
“Devil or Christ, I care not, I,
Good red gold will I have or die.
Lust of the Viking strain of mine,
Good red gold and good red wine,
“By the hammer of Thor! By the hammer of Thor!”
The Devil flew in at the smithy door.
“O, Jennens, smith of the Viking strain,
‘Twere shame that thou called’st sat on my name in vain”
The Devil was lean, the Devil was fat,
Gave Jennens the smith small heed to that.
His horns were short, his horns were long,
Or fire shot forth from his eyes or tongue,
Knew Jennens no whit, nor his shape nor size;
His hammer he hurled at the Devil’s eyes.
The Devil flew, but the rede is told,
The hammer was straightway turned to gold,
Whate’er it smote, the legends say,
Was turned into red gold straightway.
Gold by the hammer’s shaping shown.
“The Devil’s own! “The Devil’s own!”
“Take me and serve!” “By the hammer. Yea!”
Laughed Jennens the smith in the Viking way,
“So the gold be good. A wondrous store
Of lands and of gold shall be mine therefore.”
Jennens the smith gat lands and gold,
And gat in his pride as the rede is told.
“By the hammer of Thor! By the hammer of Thor!”
“I’ll cozen the Devil himself,” he swore.
The hammer of gold-he hath graven the same,
“In the name of Christ.” In the holy name.
The Devil flew straight from the Devil’s mass,
The graven hammer he dared not pass.
Laughed Jennens the smith, “Now Christ I bless,
The gold and the lands shall be mine natheless.”
The Devil that raged spake soft with guile,
“The land and the gold shall be thine awhile.
“Thy children’s children shall rue it yet,
But never the curse on the gold shall let.
“Thy children’s children shall seek to hold
The baleful millions of phantom gold.
“Youth shall wither, and age shall pale,
And men shall laugh at the sorry tale.
“The lands shall grow and the millions swell,
And none shall have. It is writ in hell.
“Thy soul for the souls of thy sons I give!”
“Ho! Ho!” laughed the smith, so my sons shall live,
“And the gold be mine, I will get me more,
And their souls shall be thine, By the hammer of Thor!”
Note.- The Jennens or Jennings family was of Danish extraction, and settled in England in the time of King Canute. They acquired wealth and distinction. John Jennens was a great Ironmaster of Birmingham, dying in 1653. The vast accumulated wealth of this family has been the subject of almost endless litigation, the claimants being numbered by hundreds.
Pipone
 
And the third one;
Henry VI At Yardley
“O since my sire was lord of war,
Men crowned me with the blood-red gold,
And bound me unto dolorous days,
And murderous doom to hold
“And strife by which the war-lord breathed
Doth dog me. Is it Harry’s son
That loves not war? Men cry, and laugh
In scorn of such an one
“Who changed me at my birth? Nay! God
Takes vengeance, may-be, in such wise
Upon the war-lord’s soul, for hosts
Slain in his victories
“May-be God gave me love of peace,
And placed me on the war-lord’s throne,
And set the lands to watch how Kings
With blood for blood atone
“Upon the son, the son’s son. Yea!
God’s vengeance. Howsoe’er it chance,
In England may the roses grow,
And lilies in fair France.”
In Yardley amid Yardley’s peace.
So spake Lord Harry, gentle son
Of war-lord Harry, while afield
Men clamoured everyone
For brothers’ blood, and armed and slew,
And drenched the land with woes, and bruit
Of ills to come, and ills long sown,
Ripened to bitter fruit
And gentle East stood nigh. The King,
Whose doom was cloaked about him, stood
And watched the sunlight play upon
God’s House past the grey wood
And thus the King spake, “On the King,
God’s vengeance. Yea! Howe’er it chance,
In England may the roses grow,
And lilies in fair France
Note.- Henry VI passed some days staying with his beloved esquire, East of Yardley.

Pipone​
 
I know you didn't ask, but I thought you might like these as well.
William De Birmingham
“Roger de Someri, lord of thine,
Baron of Dudley, master mine,
“From whom thou holdest lands in fee,
Suit and service claims of thee.”
William, knight of Birmingham town,
Strode his ramparts up and down.
“Now by St. Martin’s self,” he said,
“Where he Fitz-Ansculph stern and dread,
“And not but Paganall’s daughter’s mate,
I give him challenge and scorn and hate.
“Nor greet I him for a lord of mine,
So speed and tell him, this lord of thine,
“And since thy speech is so hotly said,
And thy master’s word is so swiftly sped,
“Thou has need of water to cool thy throat,
There is water enow in my castle moat”.
A struggle, a fall, a splash; I reck
That herald had need of a stouter neck.
William, knight of Birmingham town,
Hath quaffed red wine, and hath lain him down,
And “By St. Martin’s self” hath sworn
Penance meet for the morrow morn.
Saint Martin hath leaped from his holy shrine
And come in the night for a secret sign.
The flaming sword in his outstretched hand,
Hath touched the knight as a burning brand.
“Since penance thou hast sworn to do,
I will spare thee yet for a year or two.
“Yet when thou art come to thy greatest pride
Bethink thee, then, how the herald died.”
William, knight of Birmingham town,
Hath armed against King Henry’s crown;
Hath clasped Earl Leicester’s hand, and worn
The peoples cross for the battle morn.
And Roger de Someri, Dudley’s lord,
Yields him captive and yields his sword.
What voice was that in the night that cried,
“Bethink thee, now, how the herald died?”
Saint Martin’s self, with his sword in hand
Hath touched the knight as a burning brand.
And every breeze of the night hath cried,
“Bethink thee, now, the herald died.”
“At Evesham fight”-so runs the writ
Never a word of truth hath it.
They found his body by Severn’s strand,
Burnt, as it were, by a flaming brand.
Note.-William de Birmingham having neglected his services to his Overlord the Baron of Dudley, and defied him, joined Simon de Montfort, Earl of Leicester, in his conflict with King Henry III, with whom Dudley was sided. De Birmingham took Lord Dudley captive, but at the Battle of Evesham soon afterwards, De Montfort was defeated, and De Birmingham was slain, avenged by St. Martin for the slaying of one of Lord Dudley’s Messengers to him.
Edward Bermingham
God, of His mercy, give his grace
To Edward, last of the ancient race.
And God, of his justice, smite with sword,
Dudley, perjured in deed and word.
“False as Dudley is false,” so tell
The angels lost in the depths of hell
With stifled breath, as they watch afar
The rise of his monstrous, baleful star.
Yet they glee that the headsman stands in wait
With his trappings black at the Dudley gate.
Woe that my father died, that I
Should come to his lands and my doom thereby.
Had’st thou seized my lands with thy strong right hand,
‘Twere a simple theft that thy greed had planned.
Had’st thou fought and slain, as a knight had slayed,
The Monks my soul to Heaven had prayed;
But that thou should’st compass me round about
With the idle knaves of thy thieving rout,
That base suborners should swear to shame
The last of an ancient, stainless name.
And that thou, of thy mercy, my life would’st spare,
O, more is this than a man might bear.
Glad was the morn as I rode in pride,
From my father’s hold, o’er the road so wide-
As travellers grave and meetly drest
Came five or six of thy knaves confest,
And rode beside and spake with joy,
How gifts were good in my lord’s employ-
And betimes a horseman came in sight,
And these knaves of thine, in the open light,
Stayed him, spoiled him, and stole his purse;
He chased them all with a seeming curse
And swore, thy servant, so bold was he,
That I had aided their knavery.
It is little, God knows! To have sworn away
A life in the Kings High Court to-day.
But that thou, of thy mercy, should’st give me grace;
That thou might’st rule in my fathers place;
“No thanks, my lord.” Men say anew,
Never a Dudley yet was true.
And always the headsman stands in wait
With his trappings black at the Dudley gate.
Now God, of His mercy, give His grace
To Edward, last of the ancient race.
Note.-Last of the de Berminghams, born in 1497. Succeeded to the estates when three years old, becoming ward to Edward Sutton, Lord of Dudley. In 1528 he was falsely accused by John Dudley of robbing one of his tenants. The next year his estates were seized, and in 1532 he was arrested and imprisoned in the Tower of London, where he was detained until 1536, when he was released after forfeiting his estates. He was a victim of a plot of John Dudley, afterwards Duke of Northumberland, to seize his possessions as above stated.
Pipone
I would love to see the other drawings if you could post them on the site.
 
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