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Augusta Street Jewellery Quarter

mikejee

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Staff member
Laura
what years are we talking about. Havbe looked in Kellys fo 1890 and 1880 , and McCoy are not at no 6 then. If you say about when I can do a closer search
 

mikejee

Super Moderator
Staff member
In the 1915 Kellys J.B.McCoy is at no 6. No 23 is listed with five tenants: S.Harold & Co, gen ring makers; Stanley Porter & Co, accountants; Thomas William bird, watch repairer; Austin & Cranfield, watch repairers & Ernest John Hill, chaser. In 1921 all of no 23 is occupied by S.Harold & Co
 

mikejee

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Staff member
Sorry. In 1897 the occupants of no 23 were: Evans & Co, jewellers; Edward Lacey, jewell case maker; Charles Foster, gem setter & Thomas Townsend, electroplater
 

Laura-Jen

master brummie
Sorry. In 1897 the occupants of no 23 were: Evans & Co, jewellers; Edward Lacey, jewell case maker; Charles Foster, gem setter & Thomas Townsend, electroplater
Thank you for looking for me, that has just thrown up another possible family connection though, her older sister married a Lacey, thank you again
 

Dave C

master brummie
Thank you for looking for me, that has just thrown up another possible family connection though, her older sister married a Lacey, thank you again
just noticed this, my Laceys were Gilt Toy Makers and Jewellers in Brum, although they came originally from Worcestershire. Is the name George Lacey born 1838 a possible connection? Cheers Dave
 

Keith Lacey

New Member
Good morning. I have a contact via ancestry where we are trying to find a link between her laceys in birmingham and mine mostly in london and essex. Kim Rumpsa in Missouri USA on, her tree has George Lacey born abt 1806 Bronington Worcestershire, died 1881 lived 40 navigation street Birmingham.
census of 1851 says gilt toy with Sarah Wainright born abt 1818 married 1836.

Their son George born 1838, along with father and mother and grandchildren on the census of 1881, 40 navigation street says dad still a jeweller aged 75. son George and grandkids in the trade with one a clockmaker.
Would you like me to put you both in contact? She is obviously a distance relation of yours. Details of census etc below.
regards

Keith Lacey


George
Last nameLacey
Name note-
Marriage year1836
Marriage date15 Aug 1836
Marriage placeEdgbaston
Spouse's first name(s)Sarah
Spouse's last nameWainwright
Spouse's age-
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Record setEngland Marriages 1538-1973
CategoryBirth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records


Census 1861 in 40, Navigation Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLaceyHeadMarriedMale551806...Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
SarahLaceyWifeMarriedFemale441831...Birmingham, Warwickshire, England



Census 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Navigation Street, Saint Thomases Birmingham, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLacyHeadMarriedMale451806Gilt ToyBronington, Worcestershire, England
SarahLacyWifeMarriedFemale---Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLacySonUnmarriedMale121839Errand BoyBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
George Lacy's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.
First name(s)George
Last nameLacy
RelationshipHead
Marital statusMarried
SexMale
Age45
Birth year1806
OccupationGilt Toy
Birth placeEngland
Birth townBronington
Birth town as transcribedBronington
Birth countyWorcestershire
Birth county as transcribedWorcestershire
StreetNavigation Street
TownBirmingham


Census 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Navigation Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLaceyHead-Male641807-Worcestershire, England
SarahLaceyWife-Female531818-Warwickshire, England
George Lacey's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.
First name(s)George
Last nameLacey
RelationshipHead
Marital status-
SexMale
Age64
Birth year1807
Occupation-
Birth town-
Birth placeEngland
Birth countyWorcestershire
Birth county as transcribedWORCESTERSHIRE
House name-
StreetNavigation Street
ParishBirmingham
TownSt Thomas
CityBirmingham
CountyWarwickshire

Census 1881 with son and grandchildren

GeorgeLaceyHeadMarriedMale751806JewellerBromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
SarahLaceyWifeMarriedFemale631818-Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLaceySonWidowerMale421839JewellerBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
Francis HLaceyGrand SonSingleMale181863JewellerBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
Arthur JLaceyGrand SonSingleMale161865JewellerBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
Frederick TLaceyGrand SonSingleMale141867Clock MakerBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
Ada LLaceyGrand DaughterSingleFemale121869ScholarBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
AlbertLaceyGrand SonSingleMale101871ScholarBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
HerbertLaceyGrand SonSingleMale81873ScholarBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
CharlesLaceyGrand SonSingleMale31878-Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

George Lacey's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.
First name(s)George
Last nameLacey
RelationshipHead
Marital statusMarried
SexMale
Age75
Birth year1806
Birth townBromsgrove
Birth town as transcribedBROMSGROVE
Birth countyWorcestershire
Birth county as transcribedWORCESTERSHIRE
Birth placeEngland
OccupationJeweller
House number40
StreetNavigation Street
Town-
ParishBirmingham
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Registration district


George Lacey burial, Warstone Lane Cemetery Birmingham

First name(s)George Lacey
Birth year-
Death year1881
Burial year1881
CemeteryBirmingham, Warstone Lane Cemetery
Number in grave3
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Family history society contacthttps://midland-ancestors.shop/BIRM-Cemeteries
Source
Warwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010
Record setWarwickshire Burials


Son George jnr Birth
First name(s)George
Last nameLacey
GenderMale
Birth year1838
Birth place-
Baptism year1838
Baptism date22 Oct 1838
PlaceBirmingham
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Father's first name(s)George
Father's last nameLacey
Mother's first name(s)Sarah
Mother's last name-
Record setEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975


son George married Louisa Corbett

George Lacey
Age24
Marriage year1862
Marriage date03 Nov 1862
Marriage placeBordesley
Father's first name(s)George
Father's last nameLacey
Spouse's first name(s)Louisa
Spouse's last nameCorbett
Spouse's age20
Spouse's birth year1842
Spouse's birth date1842
Spouse's father's first name(s)Thomas
Spouse's father's last nameCorbett
ResidenceBordesley, Warwick, England
CountyWarwickshire

2nd marriage ?
First name(s)GEORGE THOMAS married Elizabeth Bragg
Last nameLACEY
Marriage quarter3
Marriage year1900
DistrictWest Bromwich
CountyStaffordshire
CountryEngland
Volume6B
Volume as transcribed6B
Page number1490
Record setEngland & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
CategoryBirth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

OR
GEORGE LACEY married Clara Elizabeth Macfee
Marriage quarter1
Marriage year1873
GEORGE LACEY married Clara Elizabeth Macfee
DistrictBirmingham
District number-
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Volume6D
Volume as transcribed6D
Page number190 Record setEngland & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
 

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mikejee

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Staff member
Kieth.
Have looked at soem directories and the following may be of interest. (Note date is publication date and actual survey date likely to be earlier , at this time possibly more than 1 year):
1858 Dix's directory Listed at 40 Navigation st, no trade given. At this time he would have been of some importance if listed just as a home address.
1862 Corporation directory. Listed as solderer at 40 Navigation st
1867 and 1868 Post Office directory. A George Lacey listed at 43 Navigation st as a greengrocer
1872 PO directory A George Lacey listed at 75 Navigation st as a hosier
1873 Whites directory . A george Lacey at 75 navigation st. Gilt jeweller & hosier
1876 PO directory .Two George Laceys listed, presumably father & son:
40 navigation st, gilt toy solderer (note: "toys" at this time meant fancy items of dress/jewellery, eg buckles etc)
75 navigation st ,hosier
1878 PO directory Only John Lacey, gilt toy solderer at 40 navigation st. No 75 is another person who is a fruiterer
George continues as a gilt toy solderer till at least the 1884 edition, but has gone by 1888
 

Keith Lacey

New Member
Many thanks. Some tie in. I have the census pics for a few years showing 40 navigation st for George and som. George the elder died in 1888. Some of the elder grandchildren on the census 1881 seem to be involved in the trade.
every bit helps though. I will pass on to Kim in USA.

thanks
 

Dave C

master brummie
Hi Keith

how interesting, yes, definitely the same family! My direct Great Grandfather was Francis Lacey, son of George Lacey Jnr as I call him, b 1838. It's an interesting line moving from the Bromsgrove area of Worcestershire to Birmingham where as you say they moved between Gilt Toys, Jewellery and Hosiery. I had seen the Greengrocerey reference but hadn't quite worked it out yet, although I am sure when times were hard anything was possible.

I have been taking a closer look at the Lacey side over the last couple of years and last year my wife and I travelled to the Malverns which as you will know are in Worcs, very beautiful and in many areas seemingly little changed from the time our Lacey/Caswell ancestors lived there.

Very happy to liaise directly with yourself and/or Kim to look at the connection more closely. Am I allowed to put an email address in here?? In any case my email address is [email protected] I am also on Facebook/Messenger if that is easier although but quite sure how to share that link.

Look forward to hearing from you and Kim,


Dave

Good morning. I have a contact via ancestry where we are trying to find a link between her laceys in birmingham and mine mostly in london and essex. Kim Rumpsa in Missouri USA on, her tree has George Lacey born abt 1806 Bronington Worcestershire, died 1881 lived 40 navigation street Birmingham.
census of 1851 says gilt toy with Sarah Wainright born abt 1818 married 1836.

Their son George born 1838, along with father and mother and grandchildren on the census of 1881, 40 navigation street says dad still a jeweller aged 75. son George and grandkids in the trade with one a clockmaker.
Would you like me to put you both in contact? She is obviously a distance relation of yours. Details of census etc below.
regards

Keith Lacey


George
Last nameLacey
Name note-
Marriage year1836
Marriage date15 Aug 1836
Marriage placeEdgbaston
Spouse's first name(s)Sarah
Spouse's last nameWainwright
Spouse's age-
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Record setEngland Marriages 1538-1973
CategoryBirth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records


Census 1861 in 40, Navigation Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLaceyHeadMarriedMale551806...Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
SarahLaceyWifeMarriedFemale441831...Birmingham, Warwickshire, England



Census 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Navigation Street, Saint Thomases Birmingham, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLacyHeadMarriedMale451806Gilt ToyBronington, Worcestershire, England
SarahLacyWifeMarriedFemale---Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLacySonUnmarriedMale121839Errand BoyBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
George Lacy's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.
First name(s)George
Last nameLacy
RelationshipHead
Marital statusMarried
SexMale
Age45
Birth year1806
OccupationGilt Toy
Birth placeEngland
Birth townBronington
Birth town as transcribedBronington
Birth countyWorcestershire
Birth county as transcribedWorcestershire
StreetNavigation Street
TownBirmingham


Census 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Navigation Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLaceyHead-Male641807-Worcestershire, England
SarahLaceyWife-Female531818-Warwickshire, England
George Lacey's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.
First name(s)George
Last nameLacey
RelationshipHead
Marital status-
SexMale
Age64
Birth year1807
Occupation-
Birth town-
Birth placeEngland
Birth countyWorcestershire
Birth county as transcribedWORCESTERSHIRE
House name-
StreetNavigation Street
ParishBirmingham
TownSt Thomas
CityBirmingham
CountyWarwickshire

Census 1881 with son and grandchildren

GeorgeLaceyHeadMarriedMale751806JewellerBromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
SarahLaceyWifeMarriedFemale631818-Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
GeorgeLaceySonWidowerMale421839JewellerBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
Francis HLaceyGrand SonSingleMale181863JewellerBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
Arthur JLaceyGrand SonSingleMale161865JewellerBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
Frederick TLaceyGrand SonSingleMale141867Clock MakerBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
Ada LLaceyGrand DaughterSingleFemale121869ScholarBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
AlbertLaceyGrand SonSingleMale101871ScholarBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
HerbertLaceyGrand SonSingleMale81873ScholarBirmingham, Warwickshire, England
CharlesLaceyGrand SonSingleMale31878-Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

George Lacey's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.
First name(s)George
Last nameLacey
RelationshipHead
Marital statusMarried
SexMale
Age75
Birth year1806
Birth townBromsgrove
Birth town as transcribedBROMSGROVE
Birth countyWorcestershire
Birth county as transcribedWORCESTERSHIRE
Birth placeEngland
OccupationJeweller
House number40
StreetNavigation Street
Town-
ParishBirmingham
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Registration district


George Lacey burial, Warstone Lane Cemetery Birmingham

First name(s)George Lacey
Birth year-
Death year1881
Burial year1881
CemeteryBirmingham, Warstone Lane Cemetery
Number in grave3
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Family history society contacthttps://midland-ancestors.shop/BIRM-Cemeteries
Source
Warwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010
Record setWarwickshire Burials


Son George jnr Birth
First name(s)George
Last nameLacey
GenderMale
Birth year1838
Birth place-
Baptism year1838
Baptism date22 Oct 1838
PlaceBirmingham
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Father's first name(s)George
Father's last nameLacey
Mother's first name(s)Sarah
Mother's last name-
Record setEngland Births & Baptisms 1538-1975


son George married Louisa Corbett

George Lacey
Age24
Marriage year1862
Marriage date03 Nov 1862
Marriage placeBordesley
Father's first name(s)George
Father's last nameLacey
Spouse's first name(s)Louisa
Spouse's last nameCorbett
Spouse's age20
Spouse's birth year1842
Spouse's birth date1842
Spouse's father's first name(s)Thomas
Spouse's father's last nameCorbett
ResidenceBordesley, Warwick, England
CountyWarwickshire

2nd marriage ?
First name(s)GEORGE THOMAS married Elizabeth Bragg
Last nameLACEY
Marriage quarter3
Marriage year1900
DistrictWest Bromwich
CountyStaffordshire
CountryEngland
Volume6B
Volume as transcribed6B
Page number1490
Record setEngland & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
CategoryBirth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

OR
GEORGE LACEY married Clara Elizabeth Macfee
Marriage quarter1
Marriage year1873
GEORGE LACEY married Clara Elizabeth Macfee
DistrictBirmingham
District number-
CountyWarwickshire
CountryEngland
Volume6D
Volume as transcribed6D
Page number190 Record setEngland & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Hi Keith
 

Vivienne14

Super Moderator
Staff member
A great visual record of a business in the JQ, now gone. It looks like it was, as you say on Augusta Street, and I think near the junction with Warstone Lane. You can see the two distinctive Victorian buildings on Warstone Lane in the background of the image #4 of post #32. Also the 1960s multi-storey building in 5 of the photos (now refurbished and called the Big Peg) helps to place the garage in today’s Google Streetview. It looks like it was on a fairly substantial site. Here are some views from Streetview. I think the low level buildings to the right of the Big Peg in the second Streetview must be the former site of the garage, now marked as Universal Gems on the satellite view. Viv.

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Astoness

TRUE BRUMMIE MODERATOR
Staff member
stunning photos again mark...in fact i dont think i am being over the top here when i say i think that your work along with mikejees photos he took 68 to 72 is worthy of an exhibition...the great phyllis nicklin had one of her 50s and 60s photos outside the entrance to snow hill station about 4 years back and i put your photos on par with hers...many thanks

lyn
 
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