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Timbo90 said:
As a fireman at Aston Loco in "Jan1961" I remember my driver (Herbert Clement) and I had worked the night scotch 10.45 pm from New St to Crewe where we changed engines, our engine would be a "class 7 Scot" and a "class 8 Duchess" would take the train on to Scotland, we took our engine to Crewe North shed. We then waited on Crewe station for the "Fish train" which we worked back to "Curzon St", arriving about 5 am, this was our roster Monday to Friday. On Saturday we were rostered Spare and were sent with a Tank engine to Curzon St to perform heating duties on a train load of Bananas because it was freezing weather, we sat there for 14 hours. What a comedown from the Night Scotch to heating Bananas.
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(1960) Timbo do you remember the working that used to be in New Street at around 5pm every evening for London ex Glasgow I think. It always seemed to be a Royal Scot in charge, would that Scot have come on at Crewe? I once saw a Jube 'Jellicoe' on it, it looked brand new so I assume it was ex Crewe works! Jubilees didnt seem too popular in the Birmingham area! any comment

I seem to remember Aston only had one Jubilee Class, Sampson it always seemed to work northbound but never south bound unless it was after we all went home, I suppose!
 
Not Timbo, but I think the working you refer to was the Glasgow-Birmingham terminating at New St. It was a Crewe 'running-in turn' and always had an Xworks loco. I have seen scots, jubes, brits and clans on at New St and stabled at shed 3D. What wounderful times in the 50's

Mike.
 
I used to go to New St Station every evening on my way home from school to see what was pulling the 5.00 Glasgow train. Lots of "crates" but sometimes a "cop". Even saw a blackie pull it from time to time.
Dave A
 
Many years ago had to deliver a car for Smithfield Garage to Aberdeen.

Started out at 10 o'clock on a Sunday night arrived 7-30 am in Aberdeen
T
Caught the 8-30 fro Aberdeen to Glasgow



And the train toBrum Arriving at 5 o'clock
What a good day
 
Blackies! Saw two double-heading the 'Glasgow' in immaculate lined black obviously Xworks from Carnforth shed (10A). They were on the train for a week - wish I had the numbers today! they will be on record somewhere (late 50's)

Mike.
 
Penns said:
(1960) Timbo do you remember the working that used to be in New Street at around 5pm every evening for London ex Glasgow I think. It always seemed to be a Royal Scot in charge, would that Scot have come on at Crewe? I once saw a Jube 'Jellicoe' on it, it looked brand new so I assume it was ex Crewe works! Jubilees didnt seem too popular in the Birmingham area! any comment

I seem to remember Aston only had one Jubilee Class, Sampson it always seemed to work northbound but never south bound unless it was after we all went home, I suppose!
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Penns, from my spotting by the Camp Hill station bridge in Montpellier St in the late 50s -- early 60s, I seem to recall several Jubilees. One I especially remember was Kampala. So long ago I can't be certain it wasn't at New St.
 
For a brief period (mid 60's) Aston shed (then 21**) stabled the A3's working the Sutton coldfield - Stirling motor-rail turn. Aston spotters were able to see loco's from all regions, but by then the southern loco's were on the way to the breakers yard in the Walsall area. I have seen at Aston station Great Western pannier tanks on the Saturday football specials heading towards Coventry.

Mike.
 
When I delivered that car to Aberdeen for Smithfield Garage.Caught the train down to Glasgow and then from there to Brum and arrived dead on 5oclock
 
Ah!! It was the only time us New St spotters saw Eastern Region (30A - 32A) Brits on the Glasgow - Xworks from Crewe

Mike.
 
Ray T said:
Penns, from my spotting by the Camp Hill station bridge in Montpellier St in the late 50s -- early 60s, I seem to recall several Jubilees. One I especially remember was Kampala. So long ago I can't be certain it wasn't at New St.
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But now I ponder it, Kampala may have been a Patriot.
 
Hi Ray,

I can't track down an LMS loco called Kampala.

Nearest matches 45662 Kempenfelt, 45588 Kashmir, and 45593 Kolhapur, all Jubilees
so you were probably right about it being a Jubilee.

Kind regards
Dave
 
adap2it said:
I used to go to New St Station every evening on my way home from school to see what was pulling the 5.00 Glasgow train. Lots of "crates" but sometimes a "cop". Even saw a blackie pull it from time to time.
Dave A
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Hi
I remember seeing Clan Buchanan pulling the 5 o'clock Glasgow into New Street.

The only Clan I ever saw!.

Kind regards
Dave
 
Don't ever remember an engine called Kampala.Just looked it up in the ABC shedbook there was Kashmir,Kolhapur,Kenya that's all the Ks
 
Dave89 said:
Hi
I remember seeing Clan Buchanan pulling the 5 o'clock Glasgow into New Street.

The only Clan I ever saw!.

Kind regards
Dave
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I've been left Brum 60 years, I don't even recall 2 levels. I do remember the diversions, sitting on grassy banks overlooking the line, there were grassy banks on both sides something like a "cutting"or culvert, maybe this is what is being referred to. I do remember bunking in to Aston sheds and copping Clan Buchanan, Oh! the jubilation!!

This is what I posted in post #24 back in 2016
Dave A
 
Dave89 said:
Hi Ray,

I can't track down an LMS loco called Kampala.

Nearest matches 45662 Kempenfelt, 45588 Kashmir, and 45593 Kolhapur, all Jubilees
so you were probably right about it being a Jubilee.

Kind regards
Dave
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I haven't been able to find Kampala in recent times either, Dave. I'd assumed it was scrapped before the publication of the 1961 Ian Allen combine I have but it's possible there was no such loco. It's a mystery, then, as to why I've been sure of that "Kampala" nameplate all these years. I can see it now on the side of the loco. But time plays tricks on the memory and I probably mis-remembered another name altogether.
 
Hi Ray,

I checked through a 1961 combined ref, and a 1955 LMS ref, and there were 2 less Jubilees in
1961, - Gilbert and Ellice Islands, and Malta GC, so if it was wrecked or lost, it would have to
be before 1955. The only other Jubilee missing from the complete sequence was 45637 Windward
Islands, which was wrecked in the early 1950s.

Kind regards
Dave
 
Dave89 said:
Hi Ray,

I checked through a 1961 combined ref, and a 1955 LMS ref, and there were 2 less Jubilees in
1961, - Gilbert and Ellice Islands, and Malta GC, so if it was wrecked or lost, it would have to
be before 1955. The only other Jubilee missing from the complete sequence was 45637 Windward
Islands, which was wrecked in the early 1950s.

Kind regards
Dave
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Never heard of jube called Campala but there is one called camperdown froms memory. Used to come through grassy banks often

Mike
 
Dave89 said:
The only other Jubilee missing from the complete sequence was 45637 Windward
Islands, which was wrecked in the early 1950s.
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45637 Windward Islands was destroyed in the Harrow and Wealdstone three train collision in October 1952,a disaster in which 112 people lost their lives...…...……...….Mal
 
Radiorails said:
Kolhapur I believe is at Tyseley.
preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com

45593 Kolhapur (LMS 5593 & BR 45593)

The locomotive was built in 1934 as LMS 5593 by North British Locomotive Co. at Queens Park, Glasgow. The North British Locomotive Company (NBL, NB Loco or North British) was created in 1…
preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com
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Going slightly off thread, apologies, If anyone is interested here is a list of "Jubilee" names, and a little bit of information.

 
Ray T said:
I haven't been able to find Kampala in recent times either, Dave. I'd assumed it was scrapped before the publication of the 1961 Ian Allen combine I have but it's possible there was no such loco. It's a mystery, then, as to why I've been sure of that "Kampala" nameplate all these years. I can see it now on the side of the loco. But time plays tricks on the memory and I probably mis-remembered another name altogether.
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There was never an LMS Jubilee named Kampala or any other LMS engine. The engine you sore was probable, Eastern region class B1 61002 Impala. A block of them were named after Antelope and Deer. I saw it a few times in New Street and Rugby going over the Birdcage Bridge on a Saturday afternoon. Great memories.
 
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