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Allen Family Birmingham

barrie

barrie

master brummie
These Allen's are in my tree, are they in yours?

Elizabeth 1858
Francis 1829
Frank 1872
Jane 1881
Mary Ann 1863
Selina 1884
George Not known when or where born.

All others born Birmingham.

barrie.
 
My 3x great grandmother was Catherine Allen born circa 1807 in B'ham. She married a Thomas Cannon (from Ireland) on 24 August 1828 at St Martin's. In 1827/8 at B'ham, Thomas was charged with the crime of B*st*rdy against Catherine. The charge was later dropped, possibly upon his marriage to Catherine.

I don't know anything about Catherine Allen's parents or siblings - as you probably know all too well, there's a lot of Allens who lived in Brum in the early 19thC! I've yet to rifle through the Parish Registers... :-\

Catherine died on 12 February 1850 of 'diarrhorea 3 weeks certified' at 'Stanyard's Building, Key Hill' and was buried in Key Hill cemetery.

The only census Catherine figured on was 1841 when the family were living at Lower Camden Street.

I know I've rambled a bit but can you tie my Catherine in with your lot Barrie?

Janny
 
Hi Janny. My Birmingham Allen's are all descended from George Allen and Julia Jordan who married in Birmingham on 10 Feb 1823. I have'nt really gone into this side of the family much, I've spent most of me time looking for me elusive Granny. :) I will look through what I've got, and see if there might be a connection.

barrie.
 
Seeing the recent discussion reminded me that my grandmother was Diana Clifford Allen, daughter of William Allen, who In was told kept a shop in Cecil Street. I've never found anyone of that name in the directories until they moved to Ellen Street in about 1910. On 6 June 1907, my gran married Augustus Harry Walker, of 46 St Stephens' Street at St Stephen's church.
I'm not really into family history, but someone might find a connection there.
Peter
 
551 Warwickshire born & bred Allen's living in Brum alone in 1841...
763 at 1901 :'( where do you start?... Back to the registers I suppose

Janny
 
Peter here is your grandmother in 1901, living with her parents in Cecil Street. Her father was in fact a gold chain maker, and her mother and sister were Olive, the names on the census mistranscribed.


Name: Diane C Allen
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William
Mother's name: Clire C
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: (Back 40) 3 house Court 11 Cecil street
Occupation: pupil teacher -school

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 224
Household Members: Name Age
Clier C Allen 25
Clire C Allen 49
Diane C Allen 17
Emily A Allen 23
William Allen 50
William Hy Allen 19
 
I'm looking for Ellen Phoebe Allen ?
married Harry Whiston 1891 Birm.
crn
Dorothy b 1892
Ivy b 1893
Allen 1894
Cecil 1898
Clara 1900

any bells ringing ?
 
1901 Harry age 45 Commercial Traveller and Ellen Phoebe age 35 living in lozells Road,Aston Manor with children

1881.
Dwelling: No 32 Warstone Lane
Census Place: Birmingham, Warwick, England

John ALLEN M 51 M Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Baker
Emma ALLEN M 48 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Wife
Frederick ALLEN U 24 M Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Baker
Charles ALLEN U 21 M Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Cabinet Maker
Annie E. ALLEN U 19 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Asst In Shop (Gen)
James ALLEN U 17 M Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Baker
Ellen P. ALLEN 14 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
John ALLEN 6 M Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Harriet JAMES U 21 F Kidderm, Worcester, England
Rel: Servt
Occ: Gen Servant

1881
Dwelling: 39 Warstone Lane
Census Place: Birmingham, Warwick, England
Frederick W. WHISTON M 51 M Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Chemist
Martha WHISTON M 52 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Wife
Martha WHISTON U 27 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Harry WHISTON U 23 M Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Office Clerk
Clara WHISTON U 20 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Daug
Ruth WHISTON U 19 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Daug
Effie WHISTON 17 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Daug
Minnie WHISTON 13 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Daug
Ernest WHISTON 11 F Birm'm, Warwick, England
Rel: Dau
 
Judylar if that is your family in Alberta's 1881 cen,
This looks like it could be the family of John aged 51, in the 1841 Cen':
1841 Census
Place: Birmingham -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: B'ham All Saints
Address: Warston Lane

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born
ALLEN George M 30 Baker Outside Census County (1841)
ALLEN Pheobe F 30 Outside Census County (1841)
ALLEN John M 12 Outside Census County (1841)
ALLEN George M 11 Outside Census County (1841)
ALLEN Charles M 9 Warwickshire ALLEN Phebe F 7 Warwickshire
ALLEN Thomas M 6 Warwickshire ALLEN William M 4 Warwickshire
ALLEN James M 2 Warwickshire ALLEN Emily F 1 Warwickshire
INGLEBY Mary F 20 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
 
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Barrie , this seems to be your Allen's in 1841:
Place: Birmingham -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: B'ham (St Mary)
Address: Weaman Row

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born
ALLEN George M 35 Gun Percussioner Warwickshire
ALLEN Julia F 40 Warwickshire
ALLEN George M 17 Warwickshire
ALLEN William M 15 Warwickshire
ALLEN Frances M 12 Warwickshire
ALLEN Arthur M 8 Warwickshire
ALLEN Henry M 4 Warwickshire
ALLEN Caroline F 1 Warwickshire
YATES Sarah F 15 Female Servant Warwickshire
 
Peter's family in 1891:

Place: Birmingham -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Nicholas
Address: 11 Crt, 4 Hse Cecil St

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born
ALLEN William Head M M 42 Gold Chain Maker(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
ALLEN Olive Wife M F 41 Gloucestershire - N.K.
ALLEN Sarah E Dau S F 17 Gold & Silver Polisher(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
ALLEN Olive C Dau - F 15 Warehse Girl(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
ALLEN Emily A Dau - F 13 Warehse Girl(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
ALLEN William H Son - M 9 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
ALLEN Diana C Dau - F 7 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
CLIFFORD Sarah Sislaw S F 47 Gloucestershire - N.K.
 
Judylar Here are the same family in 1891, but it looks like Ellen has been mis transcribed:

Place: Birmingham -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical Parish: St.Paul
Address: 32 Warstone Lane

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born
ALLEN Emma Widow W F 58 Baker(Em'er) Worcestershire - Kidderminster
ALLEN Charles Son S M 30 Bakers Assistant(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
ALLEN James Son S M 27 Bakers Assistant(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
ALLEN Emily Dau S F 20 Warwickshire - Birmingham
ALLEN John Son S M 16 Clerk(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
JONES Alice Servnt S F 19 General Servant-Domestic Monmouthshire - Newport
HEMMING Frederick Servnt S M 15 Learning Baking(Em'ee) Wiltshire - Corsham
 
Jannywanny

I notice that you mention in your quest for info the surnames Allen and Hands. I have both names among ancestors and have been told of a possible link by another Allen researcher between the two families. Interested to know what your connection is ?

aimac21
 
Peter W

Just seen this post. Williams Allen was the brother of my ancestor John James Allen. William and John were the children of Charles and Ann Allen. Charles was a brass caster. I have more info if you want it.

aimac21
 
hi barry
just seen the thread on allen;
my life long friend dave allen whom we went to school with and grew up in the same street in ladywood
his fathers name was george allen ; but year i do not know as and where
my friend dave ;whom i am still in contact lives in weston rd now or should i say grabtree rd hockley as all is sibbling do and the oldest daughter lives in capston ave; hockley
best wishes ASTONIAN;;
 
aimac21 said:
Peter W

Just seen this post. Williams Allen was the brother of my ancestor John James Allen. William and John were the children of Charles and Ann Allen. Charles was a brass caster. I have more info if you want it.

aimac21
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Hi! I am trying to find an Allen family for my 2 x great grandmother, Eliza Allen (1852/3-1895) who married a brass caster, Abraham Poole in 1872. They lived at 22 Nechells Park Road. Eliza died at 42 years old. Abraham went on to marry a Julia Elizabeth Harris who hailed from Canning Town. Do you have any info re Eliza? TIA
 
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