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hi folks could someone with access to the 1939 eve of war register post me the household for ada lloyd please...think she will be living in new john st west no hubby just children..

many thanks

lyn
 
ok thanks janice and maurice...on the 1939 e rolls she is at 5/59 new john st west by herself as hubby died in 1931. she committed suicide in 1940 by gassing herself here death cert is being ordered..wonder where she was on the eve of war then i believe the children were evacuated
 
yes thanks john i have got that info for 1939 e roll but it appears that she is not at that address on the eve of war register..mind you the 39 e roll could have been taken in 38 so she could have lived somewhere else just prior to her death in june 1940

thanks john

lyn
 
What's your interest in this Ada I believe they where married in 1922 December quarter
 
Lyn,

Sorry I've been out all evening. Here are the three possibles excluding blocked records:-

18 Great Russell Street
Ada bn 28 May 1888
Thomas bn 14 April 1924 - packer in warehouse - printing trade
Leslie A. bn 27 May 1927 - school

28,32 Firsby Road
Ada bn 7 August 1875
Doris L bn 11 October 1904 - power press hand
May (Dorothy M.) Waters formerly Lloyd bn 25 July 1917 - capstan lathe hand

50 Willow Road
Ada bn 8 September 1874
Winifred L. bn 30 May 1910 - grocery shop assistant

Hope one of these is yours!

Maurice
 
hi bewdley i dont think thats my ada as she was born in 1888 and was a widow by 1939...just out of interest what was the address for that one please ??

maurice pretty sure the one you found at gt russell is her as i know she had sons thomas and leslie i know that leslie was evacuated and i dont think he saw his mom again as said before she committed suicide the following year..so sad...is she down as a widow.??

back to mws lol...is is possible for you to post the image please for the ada lloyd at gt russell st that maurice has found

many thanks to both of you this is most helpful

lyn
 
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Lyn,

That seems pretty likely and I will leave MWS to post the image. Now to check for the suicide in the newspapers.

Maurice
 
thanks maurice much appreciated although i have a hunch you wont find anything of the suicide..never know though and as i said on another thread the death certs for both ada and hubby who died in a gas explosion at its said saltley gas works are being ordered..

lyn
 
Lyn,

No Court report on the Inquest, if there was one, just this in the Birmingham Mail dated 15 April 1940.

If you're going to the Library, it might be work checking for an Inquest (last one I got had a 70 year closed date).

Maurice
 

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thanks for that maurice..not sure ada had any daughters though but i can easily check that out..the other thing is that snippet is dated april 1940 but her death was reg june 1940 but i am thinking that if there was an inquest into her death then that could explain the delay in registering her death..not really sure ..hope to have a bit more info tomorrow..oh is she down as widow on the 39 ??

lyn
 
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Astoness said:
hi mws i dont think thats my ada as she was born in 1888 and was a widow by 1939...just out of interest what was the address for that one please ??

maurice pretty sure the one you found at gt russell is her as i know she had sons thomas and leslie i know that leslie was evacuated and i dont think he saw his mom again as said before she committed suicide the following year..so sad...is she down as a widow.??

back to mws lol...is is possible for you to post the image please for the ada lloyd at gt russell st that maurice has found

many thanks to both of you this is most helpful

lyn
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MWS hasn't responded to your post Lyn, did you mean my post? If so the address is 5/59 New John Street West as in your post.

Here is the 1939 for Gt Russell St, hope it's correct and you haven't sent for cert yet.
 

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Lyn,

Yes, all the Ada Lloyd entries on the 1939 Register were widows, which was why I queried her d.o.b. when she wasn't living at NJSW.

Maurice
 
oops sorry bewdley..senior moment again lol...bit confused now as i have ada and hubby thomas on the 30 e roll at 60 njsw and on the 39 e roll at 5/59 njsw

bewdley has found an ada lloyd on the eve of war register at 5/59 njsw single and b 1885 my ada was born 1888 and by 1931 she was widowed..

then we have which has to be my ada lloyd on another eve of war register correct dob and a widow at gt russell street..

bit late now but i think i will return to this with a fresh head lol...

no certs sent for yet...
 
Lyn,

The Electoral Rolls are taken in the previous October. I searched specifically for a status of widowed, so that no single or marrieds would show and I got the three in post #11. You need to track back on the one that Bewdley found. Off to bed!

Maurice
 
yes thanks maurice i think i know what must have happened...there must have been 2 ada lloyds in the family one widowed b 1888 and the other one single b 1885..i think when my ada widowed moved out of 5/59 njsw she moved to gt russell st and the other ada lloyd who was single moved into 5/59 njsw..

i am helping my neighbour who has already done a lot of research but just trying to tie up a couple of loose ends so i will get some more info off her tomorrow..
 
gingerjon said:
What's your interest in this Ada I believe they where married in 1922 December quarter
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sorry john missed your post...just helping a friend with this one but yes ada did marry in 1922..this was her 2nd marriage...

lyn
 
Her Maiden name was Ada Rogers then Ada Smith lastly Ada Lloyd.
three children first marriage three children second marriage Her first husband was Sydney Smith he was killed in first world war action. 1915
this is from Ancestry.com
 
thanks john thats confirms my info so far..i know her 2nd hubbys war records survived so did he only to die in a gas explosion at saltley but have not looked for sydneys war records yet..will have a look when i have time later on unless someone beats me to it lol...poor ada did not have a happy life did she....do you have sydneys date of birth please john

lyn
 
There is a tree on Ancestry which has Ada on and gives Sydney's birth as 1889. Marriage to Ada in 1910. Children John, Ethel and Beatrice.
 
pjmburns said:
There is a tree on Ancestry which has Ada on and gives Sydney's birth as 1889. Marriage to Ada in 1910. Children John, Ethel and Beatrice.
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yes thanks janice those are the children from adas first marriage...the gas explosion in 1904 is not the one im after as thomas died in a 1931 explosion...we should be able to confirm this as soon as the death cert arrives...

trying to find ada first hubbys war records now...

lyn x
 
post 17 shows the 39 register for ada at gt russell st but it looks like 2 of the 5 people living there are closed records....i did know this but have forgotten why the records for certain people are closed...could someone confirm the reason please..

many thank for all the help folks building up a nice little picture now

lyn
 
cheers pedro...got that one..post 15...however if you should find any other snippets about the circumstances of adas death (suicide) i would be most grateful if you could post on here

thanks

lyn
 
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