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1867 look up please for Emmanuel Jones.

G G Jean

Brummy Wench.
Help please. Emmanuel Jones born 1867 [thought to be Welsh] father Abraham Jones, Mothers name not known. Emmanuel married Caroline Badhams [birth 1871]. They lived in West Bromwich and Smethwick after their marriage. Have the history from then on but can't find back from his birth. Thanks. Jean.
 
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Shera

true brummie
jean, ive found these two censuses for 1871 and 1881 and wonder if they are yours.

in 1871 the family were in rawmarsh yorkshire

abraham jones 32 iron worker b. west bromwich
jane jones 41 b. worc.
thomas jones 13 iron worker b. west brom.
jane jones 9 b. west brom.
emmanuel jones 4 b. willenhall, staffs
agnes jones 5 b. willenhall staffs
hannah jones 1 b. yorkshire

then in 1881 in lancashire

abraham jones 49 iron worker forge b. west brom.
jane jones 44 b. evesham, worc
mary jane jones 19 rover in cotton mill b. handsworth staffs
emmanuel jones 14 labourer in iron works b.willenhall
annie jones 13 b. yorkshire
eliza jones 8 b. yorkshire

and theres a marriage on igi of abraham jones to jane heath 27 may 1858 st. edmunds, dudley, worc.
 

ladylinda

master brummie
Is this him,Jean?
1881
Jones Abraham aged 49 Head born West Bromwich, Staffordshire, Iron Worker Forge
Jones Jane aged 44 Wife born Evesham, Worcestershire
Jones Mary Jane aged 19 Daughter born Handsworth, Staffordshire,Rover In Cotton Mill
Jones Emmanuel aged 14 Son born Willenhall, Staffordshire,Labourer In Iron Works
Jones Annie aged 13 Daughter born Parkgate, Yorkshire
Jones Eliza aged 8 Daughter born Parkgate, Yorkshire
Sherrick William aged 17 Boarder born Hindley, Lancashire, Furnaceman In Coal Mine
living at 321 Warrington Road, Ince, Lancashire
1871
Jones Abraham 39 Head born West Bromwich, Stafford, Iron Worker
Jones Jane 41 Wife born Worcestershire
Jones Thomas 13 Son born West Bromwich, Stafford, Iron Worker
Jones Jane 9 Daur born West Bromwich, Stafford
Jones Emmanuel 4 Son born Willenhall, Stafford
Jones Agness 5 Daur born Willenhall, Stafford
Jones Hannah 1 Daur born Rotherham, Yorkshire
living at Industy Street, Beighton
 

G G Jean

Brummy Wench.
You are both GEMS. and thank you very much for your time. What we do without people like yourselves on the forum. Jean.
 

G G Jean

Brummy Wench.
Hi Linda and Chris any chance of a maiden name for both Jane Jones's please as not sure which one is the family line. Much appreciated. Jean.
 

bren

master brummie
Jean the families above are the same family, i found this marriage --

Abraham Jones/Jane Thomas 1st qtr 1851 Dudley 18 330


bren
 

Shera

true brummie
bren has found that marriage jean, but ive found the one at the end of my post to jane heath in 1858. i dont know which is correct??
 

Shera

true brummie
in 1861 at griffin street, west brom.
jane jones 27 b. worc.
thomas jones 3 b. west brom
sarah a. jones 1 mth

they were lodging with the shakespeare family (joseph and mary shakespeare and their children daniel and joseph.
i think abraham was lodging with samson and hannah adams in tunstall, wolstanton.

because the oldest child seems to have been born 1858 i think the marriage to jane heath would be the correct one. not certain though!
 

Shera

true brummie
in 1851 in loveday st. west bromwich

thomas jones 53 coal miner b. sedgley
hannah jones 53 b. sedgley
thomas 17 iron founder b. west brom
ABRAHAM 13 iron founder b. west brom
hannah 12 b. west brom
 

Shera

true brummie
and in 1841 loveday st. west brom.

thomas jones 40 miner
hannah jones 40
david jones 20 miner
martha jones 15
mary jones 15
thomas jones 10
ABRAHAM 5
hannah 2

abraham jones birthdate has must be about 1838.
 

bren

master brummie
because the oldest child seems to have been born 1858 i think the marriage to jane heath would be the correct one. not certain though!
Yes, i would agree with that, the one i found seems a little too far back


bren
 

G G Jean

Brummy Wench.
A little bit more information to go on please. Abraham Jones and Jane Higgins is the mother on other Birth Certificat for Emanuell born Willenhall. Hope this makes sense. Jean.
 
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