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Lost Birmingham Pubs

I realise I might now be pushing my luck with all your good nature on here, but I've just found from the 1901 Census that this same James Albert Gough was "PUBLIC HOUSE MANGER (working from home)" at an address given as 60 Schofield Road, Aston/Nechells, Birmingham. Does anyone know if this address was a pub, and if so, what it was called please? A photo or any details would be fantastic.
Many thanks for any further help.
John ("Brummy babby" - haha, love my name on here!)
 
Picture here...

Scholefield Street

Anyone remember anything about the top end of Schofield St., Nechells, at the junction with Great Lister St., ? The cafe on the corner, the corn shop on the other corner, the lady that used to sell the toffee apples or old residents of the back to backs. Only six when I left 187.
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The Eagle ! - thanks again guys.
Much appreciated!
John
 

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John Hunt said:
Mikejee - have just looked up that same corner of Barn St & Fazeley St on Google Street View. Looka a bit different these days!
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mikejee said:
Here is a map c1889 showing the Vulcan

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I lived near the opposite corner of Barn Street, about between the Z and the E of the Fazeley Street label on mikejee’s map. 1950 onward. I remember the building having the wide pavement on the corner as in John Hunt’s photo, and being used by Belling, of cooker fame. Whether for storage or manufacture I don’t know. Don’t remember the frontage looking ‘ex pub’ at that stage, quite industrial then.

Andrew.
 
anj63 said:
I used to hang out in the Golden Eagle 1979 ish. So many memories - I was 16 and when the police came in on a Saturday lunchtime we'd hide in the ladies till they'd gone. Also went to Bogarts upstairs -those purple fittings and disco ball lights - felt so sophisticated! had no money but went there and hung about with some bikers - Loz, and some others from Dudley area.
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I don't suppose you new a Judy smith and a guy called spud from there do you.
 
nursesue said:
my fave watering holes were the Golden Eagle - a rough bikers pub at top of new street - bulldozed down and became extension to post office. Also Bogarts on New Street and Costermongers near Brum market at back of tescos near oasis - well thats where they were if I remember correctly back to 1980s. I also remember when Tesco was the Beehive. Oh gosh I'm getting old:cry:
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Hi, do you have any memories of the Beehive in around the 1900s onwards? I would like to know if you or anyone you remembers a gentleman by the name of 'Thomas Wilson Palmer' whom I believe ran the place for a bit.
 
ray evason said:
Are the any pictures,or information on " the kings head" pub,at 67 Allison street,Birmingham,I think it was demolished about 1906/7.
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Just seen your post. There is a part picture of the Kings Head in Allison Street on the Lost Pubs Project website.
 
Looking for info on a lost Pub, (google was no help)

Address on 1871 census: 'The Struggler' Lombardian Place, Guildford Street, Aston.

George Littlewood, (Beerhouse keeper)

Thanks in advance.
 
I can't see Lombardian Place on the 1891 map but it may have changed names by then. Do any of the neighbouring houses have numbers. If not you could continue to check properties either side for other named terraces or pubs to narrow it down.

It is mentioned in the Bham Daily Post, 4 Jun 1869 in regards a lost dog - The Struggler, Guildford Street, Aston.
 
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I can't see Lombardian Place on the 1891 map but it may have changed names by then. Do any of the neighbouring houses have numbers. If not you could continue to check properties either side for other named terraces or pubs to narrow it down.

It is mentioned in the Bham Daily Post, 4 Jun 1869 in regards a lost dog - The Struggler, Guildford Street, Aston.
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Thanks MWS, I'll keep looking.
 
I believe Lombardian Place was not a separate court, but a description of the line of houses in the street. This often occurred before proper street numbering was introduced, and can still occasionally be seen where it is displayed on the front of older houses. Also I think it would have been unusual for a beerhouse to have been in a court, rather than on the street frontage. George is listed in the Whites 1873 directory as a beerhouse, in Guildford st, between Clifford St and Denmark St.
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Peculiarly he is not listed as being in Lombardian Place,, but it can be seen that thereb are 6 other businesses which are so-listed. It can be seen from the1880s map that there is no court in that position, between Denmark and Clifford Street containing as many 6 houses and I think It is extremely unlikely that this would have been different in 1871.
In the PO 1876 directory George is not listed, but there is a beerhouse between Clifford and Denmark Streets, though not numbered. occupied by william Lewis.. However In the PO Directory 1878 Willam Lewis, beerhouse, is at no 116. I think it reasonable to conclude that George Littelwood's beerhouse is the same as William Lewis's beerhouse, and was at no 116 Guildford St

The 1880s and 1950s maps of the area are below:

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Many thanks for the explanation Mike,

Searching the 1871 census with his name gives the address but a street search for 1871 gives six
households with no mention of him.

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Not quite sure what you mean by street search giving 6 households with no mention of him. You have the page which lists him in Guildford St.
 
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Not quite sure what you mean by street search giving 6 households with no mention of him. You have the page which lists him in Guildford St.
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The census says The Struggler , Lombardian Place. Which I found using address search here:

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Then looking at the 6 households of Lombardian place 'The Struggler' or George are not there.

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But you have already explained the reasons why, so thanks again Mike.
 
I use ancestry, where the search is a bit different. looked for aston and george littlewood and it came up
 
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Not needed now but the address is listed as Guildford Street The Struggler Lombardian Place, so separate from just GS LP.
 
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What happened to the Newt and Cucumber near the taxi rank/ramp in Bham centre? I visited Brum a few years ago and planned to pop in to have a drink but it had disappeared with a thoroughfare in its place!!
 
Can’t see any mention of this pub on the Forum.…The Broad, Spiceal Street (1924)
(In the index to the books it appears as Broad Vaults)

Central Birmingham pubs by McKenna, Joseph. Publication date 2006


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