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Osler Street Ladywood
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pjmburns
master brummie
In a word "no".
On 1975 map it is marked as Ladywood school Annexe but by 1986 it was new houses.
A 1965 image to add to this thread. Viv.
Phil B
Made in Brum
Hi Lyn, Viv,
Does anyone have a photo of 13 Alfred Place, Osler Street please, this is where my Grandfather, Charles William Page was living in 1925 with his German wife Catherine. They were living with his parents Charles Andrew and Annie Maria Page, see electoral register attached...
Phil
Does anyone have a photo of 13 Alfred Place, Osler Street please, this is where my Grandfather, Charles William Page was living in 1925 with his German wife Catherine. They were living with his parents Charles Andrew and Annie Maria Page, see electoral register attached...
Phil
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MWS
from Bham
Assuming Alfred Place and Alfred Terrace are the same (which I think it is) you can see the back of no 13 on the aerial photo (post #7).
On the right of the picture there is a building with a white roof with another building to the right at an angle, both below a much larger building (Tower Ballroom).
Adjacent to the left of the white roofed building is Alfred Terrace. The flat wall before the shorter terrace begins is no's 11, 12 & 13. The small wall on the right of the shorter terrace joins directly to the back of no 13.
Admittedly probably not the picture of no 13 you were looking for.
On the right of the picture there is a building with a white roof with another building to the right at an angle, both below a much larger building (Tower Ballroom).
Adjacent to the left of the white roofed building is Alfred Terrace. The flat wall before the shorter terrace begins is no's 11, 12 & 13. The small wall on the right of the shorter terrace joins directly to the back of no 13.
Admittedly probably not the picture of no 13 you were looking for.
hi phil my post 1 photos 2 and 3 if you hover over the photos the captions read alfred terrace however i do think that alfred place and terrace are one and the same..could be an error on the census or my caption as i cant see there being 2 alfred names
lyn
lyn
Phil B
Made in Brum
Hi MWS, thanks for that, I did notice, as you say, Alfred Terrace could be Alfred Place and that the house you describe is the back of number 13 in the photo of #7. Lyn's second photo on the #1 posting shows what could be number 15 to the left and number 17 to the right Alfred Terrace, in this photo. I was hoping there might be a wider version of this photo showing number 13. What is confusing, however, on the electoral register I attached it mentions a number 16 Alfred Place. When you check the old maps there is no number 16. What do you think????
Phil
MWS
from Bham
Definitely a number 16 in Alfred Terrace, I had relatives living there in 1881.
Phil B
Made in Brum
The attached shows the numbering of the back to back terraced houses. Previous to the naming of the terraces they were know as "Courts" The attached shows where the courts were before the houses were known by their terrace name. The electoral register for 1925, part shown in #8 posting, is a mixture of houses being known by their Terrace name or by the court number. So the photo of Lyn's is correct but at a time before this there were some alterations with the positioning of the outside loos. Previous map shows the loos at the end of the court.
Phil
Phil
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Stokkie
master brummie
My mother, Edith Chinn lived at 15 Reservoir Terrace with her sister Annie. Her parents were Sarah-Maria and John Chinn. Annie married and moved away to Northend, then in deep countryside, and Edith herself married George Littlewood, they moved to Bearwood, Smethwick in early 1950s. She took me to see the terrace before it was demolished in 1963, I think? I have some family photos of people and a few pictures of old Ladywood. Mum worked at CWS wholesale until she moved. We did visit Ladywood,especially Coxwell Road where her friend Hilda Buffery lived. Beatrice Cuff was another old friend. Mum had a fund of stories including the Zeppelin raid and the fire bombing of Docker's paints. People lived hard lives, but there was a close community.
Sarah Maria and John Chinn were in service at a big house in Edgbaston, but lived out. They were cook-housekeeper and gardener. Sarah Maria Clarke was born on a narrow boat in Tipton Basin. When first they married they lived in Parker Street.
Anyway good to see this thread.
Sarah Maria and John Chinn were in service at a big house in Edgbaston, but lived out. They were cook-housekeeper and gardener. Sarah Maria Clarke was born on a narrow boat in Tipton Basin. When first they married they lived in Parker Street.
Anyway good to see this thread.
Stokkie
master brummie
Anyone know which terrace off Osler Street this could be?
Source is https://web.archive.org/web/20211130052637/http://www.oldladywood.co.uk/
Source is https://web.archive.org/web/20211130052637/http://www.oldladywood.co.uk/
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Hello. Does anyone knowledgeable about Ladywood know where "Owens' Buildings" were located?
I believe they were on or adjacent to Osler Street. The 1871 census seems to place them between 46 and 47 Osler Street (I assume the street numbering has changed since 1871). House numbers 1 to 12 Owens' Buildings were recorded in the census.
Looking at the map posted above, I am wondering if "Owens' Buildings" was "Court No 3" ... ?
I believe they were on or adjacent to Osler Street. The 1871 census seems to place them between 46 and 47 Osler Street (I assume the street numbering has changed since 1871). House numbers 1 to 12 Owens' Buildings were recorded in the census.
Looking at the map posted above, I am wondering if "Owens' Buildings" was "Court No 3" ... ?
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MWS
from Bham
Owens Buildings are not listed on the 1890 map but that's not uncommon, the name may have changed. You could try to match residents from 1871 to 1881 and see if any correspond.
There are a few from 1871 still on Osler St in 1881. I can't see the 1871 scans, was Josiah Dugmore at no. 3 or James Peatman at no. 10?
There are a few from 1871 still on Osler St in 1881. I can't see the 1871 scans, was Josiah Dugmore at no. 3 or James Peatman at no. 10?
No not cort 3 , but cannot say much more. I tried to associate the numbering pre 1880 and in 1880, when the numbering changed. Only got two positions on that side of the road that I can definitely place the position of ,(19 and 50) and one where i know the approximate position of it, but think the building may have changed , so position is approximate. (27). Have marked these in red on the map . this would indicate that Owens buildings are either to the south of the school or possibly where the school is . It was there in the 1880s map, but was not built till 1875.
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