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I can't quite make out the witnesses but have attached the cert to see if you can make them out. xIs John Fox's father listed on his marriage to Emma? Witnesses significant?
I can't quite make out the witnesses but have attached the cert to see if you can make them out. xIs John Fox's father listed on his marriage to Emma? Witnesses significant?
In 1877 the Stafford Union Workhouse was on Marston Road so perhaps he worked there, Other than that there seem to be quite a few boot and shoe factories.Yes, William Faulks, Labourer. Both John and Emma are living at Marston Road, Stafford and they were married at Stafford Register Office. I have tried to find out what might have been in Marston Road as John is showing as a Male Nurse so thought perhaps some sort of hospital. However have come up with nothing but by 1881 he is describing himself as a tailor and living in Tenbury
Sorry, Yes it is farmer not labourer. I have had no luck finding them on earlier census's although did find a William Fox on the 1841 census born 1806/7 living in Ardsley Town, Darfield which I think is the Barnsley one. There are 2 sons and I know that John had at least one brother so that is a possibility but nothing much to go on really. I've had no luck finding a birth or baptism for John but will persevere!! Many thanks for your helpLooks like William Rainsford & Emma E Nation. John's father's occupation looks to be Farmer not Labourer. Not much help unfortunately.
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the address, couples often used an address of convenience so they could marry in the parish.
Looking at Ardsley, there's an Ardsley in Barnsley district and East & West Ardsley to the south of Leeds which come under Wakefield district. Again not much help.
As he has himself as a male nurse I would go with the Union workhouse although the boot and shoe factories sound promising as he is a tailor on the 2 census I've found for him. More puzzles still to solve!!In 1877 the Stafford Union Workhouse was on Marston Road so perhaps he worked there, Other than that there seem to be quite a few boot and shoe factories.
Yes I've come across this before but not too sure as on both 1881 and 1891 census and his marriage cert he is consistent with being born in 1842. However I've never managed to find him on anything with that year and Ardsley so the mystery continues!!I found a William Fox in Ardsley on the 1871 census but he was a carter not a farmer. Wife Sarah.
Also there in 1861 and in 1851 two sons at home Thomas and John (born abt 1839). That William is a linen weaver.
That’s really interesting. I know that 'John' had at least one brother but you have now set me thinking if he was actually William John but went by the name of John. God, I'm now more confused than ever, but that would make a bit of sense if he had married but then went away and married again but said he was a widower. As I said, he was a man of mystery!!The John son of William brother of Thomas is possibly William John. He marries an Emma Jackson in 1863, registered Barnsley.
She is with him in 1871 but interestingly in 1881 & 1891 she is living with family. She is listed as married but there's no sign of her husband.
I am on Ancestry.co.uk but cannot find the marriage or the 2 census you refer to. Are you able to point me in the right direction please? xThe John son of William brother of Thomas is possibly William John. He marries an Emma Jackson in 1863, registered Barnsley.
She is with him in 1871 but interestingly in 1881 & 1891 she is living with family. She is listed as married but there's no sign of her husband.
Thank you. I found an 1871 census with a William J Fox living with brother Thomas and his family, together with his wife all living in I think it was Wortley. Is this the same as you found?1881 Emma Fox b1837 in Barnsley district with father, listed as William Senr Jackson.
1891 Emma Fox b1837 in Barnsley district listed as boarder of Eliza Dignum (her sister).
Marriage for William John Fox & Emma Jackson, Dec qtr 1863 Barnsley.
Many thanks. Really appreciate all the help, you’ve given me. XYes, that's the one.