Eric Gibson
master brummie
I still think it's a girl, on her way to the pawn shop.
the clothes are over her left arm and trailing to the floor, the stick is a coat hanger in her left hand, under her hat she has collar length hair.
Spoilsport it is a prototype Dalek....exterminateI still think it's a girl, on her way to the pawn shop.the clothes are over her left arm and trailing to the floor, the stick is a coat hanger in her left hand, under her hat she has collar length hair.
In 1935 Phyliss Nicklin took the photo as shown earlier in the thread see quote below
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A few seconds later she took another from the same spot and left a wonderful photo for us to look at ...
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First time I've seen a bloke wearing 'plus fours' in a city centre pic. He's striding along in a determined manner ... perhaps a meeting made him late for some afternoon golf. There is a hint that he is wearing the customary 'argyle socks' but resolution is not high enough to be sure. On a closer look he might be wearing 'plus eights' ...
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He's in the second pic of the following post ...
Hi Jim, I've had a close look and there does seem something looking like an epaulette on his shoulder. Perhaps he worked for a hotel or similar but why he would be dressed like that is a mystery. Looks like he is carrying a brief case. Apparently 'plus fours' became popular in the 1920s but started to go out of fashion in the late 1930s.Phil, do you think he has epaulettes?
Too much trying to see a pattern that might not be there I think!Hi Jim, I've had a close look and there does seem something looking like an epaulette on his shoulder. Perhaps he worked for a hotel or similar but why he would be dressed like that is a mystery. Looks like he is carrying a brief case. Apparently 'plus fours' became popular in the 1920s but started to go out of fashion in the late 1930s.
The style of jacket worn in conjunction with a kilt has shoulder tabs. My feeling is that the image is 'over-zoomed' to the point that resolution, grain and scanning anomalies are allowing the eye/brain to create patterns that aren't there.I have a recollection that I might have seen tweed jackets like that with epaulettes at some time in my youth but they would have been regarded as very oldfashioned.
First time I've seen a bloke wearing 'plus fours' in a city centre pic. He's striding along in a determined manner ... perhaps a meeting made him late for some afternoon golf. There is a hint that he is wearing the customary 'argyle socks' but resolution is not high enough to be sure. On a closer look he might be wearing 'plus eights' ...
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He's in the second pic of the following post ...
Plus-fours and some country attire may have been unusual in Birmingham at times, but some of those living out in the suburbs might dress differently than inner city or factory workers. When in Birmingham in 1963 or 4, visiting relatives to introduce my new wife, we went to Rackhams. I bought a collared light yellow long coat for my wife - quite expensive at the time, but she loved the coat and fondly remembers it. When the staff found out we were from Devon they surprised us by saying that we were probably more used to wearing tweeds. Actually I had a few styles of clothing at the time - dependant on what I was doing or where I was going - but my wife has never been into tweeds. But I believe it summarises how areas of the country were perceived - maybe still are for some folk - perceived. Other people, due to our good suntans, including the baby, thought we might be from Italy or France
A beautiful motor but going back to the subject photo there appears to possibly be a bar of some kind across the middle of the radiator and that doesn't look very "Rolls Royce". OldBrummieView attachment 140850
It has something of the look of a 1938 Rolls-Royce Wraith, but why does the radiator detail not look quite right? If it is a Rolls-Royce then that goes to show the difficulties of pushing a photo beyond the limits of resolution!
I think the headlight to grill dimension is wrong also installed hightView attachment 140850
It has something of the look of a 1938 Rolls-Royce Wraith, but why does the radiator detail not look quite right? If it is a Rolls-Royce then that goes to show the difficulties of pushing a photo beyond the limits of resolution!
yesPhil, do you think he has epaulettes?
With the help of Google I found the following information.I have heard of plus 4s and plus 2s but plus 8s is a new one to me.
I think his jacket is a sports jacket rather than a suit jacket. Plus 4s, I am sure, never would have been regarded as suitable business wear. I have a recollection that I might have seen tweed jackets like that with epaulettes at some time in my youth but they would have been regarded as very oldfashioned.
true,i live in the sticks.i am a part-time gamekeeper.most of my friends wear that type of attire. +4s etc when on a days activity....I draw the line at that thoughRr you never can tell , perhaps the chap in the pic was up from the country , or he had be on the outskirts of Brum on a shoot or somesuch
could be spats he has on.With the help of Google I found the following information.
Our 'plus fours man' seems to have his trousers fastened somewhat lower than 4 inches below his knees...Plus Fours - Fashion, Costume, and Culture: Clothing, Headwear, Body Decorations, and Footwear through the Ages
Plus Fours - Fashion, Costume, and Culture: Clothing, Headwear, Body Decorations, and Footwear through the Ageswww.fashionencyclopedia.com![]()
Chap I got the bus with's trousers were not baggy like these, they were like we might wear now. But buttoned at the knee.could be spats he has on.View attachment 140856or might just like sticking his trousers in his sockslike these plonkers
It does Bob, but I think it is camera illusion............... Can anyone enlarge the section of photo two below the bus coming in from the left, it looks like a woman leaning into a car.
Bob
i think the one on the right is camera shyWell its raining in High Street in 1938, they are on the way home, maybe wondering why someone is taking their photo when they are wearing those raincoats !
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