I have seen older photos of the library and they just show old buildings nothing in keeping with the libraryInteresting thread.
I don't know much about this area. My question is.. has the library been partly demolished where Tesco butts up to the library? The old photo looks nothing like the Google Earth image.View attachment 130615
From Frothblower: (wrong quote in original post.
Interesting thread.
I don't know much about this area. My question is.. has the library been partly demolished where Tesco butts up to the library? The old photo looks nothing like the Google Earth image.
As far as Bundy clock sites are concerned - in the areas covered by this thread - I can say categorically that one was sited in Monument Road on the bridge by the urinal and Bridge Inn. In the other direction I am not at all sure, but believe one to have been located in the Five Ways/Plough and Harrow area. To be honest it is unlikely that one would be sited near a busy crossroads which might cause congestion should the bus be early and have to wait 'pegging' time.
If you enlarge the picture in #1, look over the top of the bus, you will see that the features of the tower do not match that of the library.Is it possible that the tower belongs to the library but the bus is on the opposite side of the junction, i.e. the building on the left isn't part of the library at all, it is just the perspective that makes them look part of the same complex.
There is certainly a Bundy clock. Where's the bus stop? How many bus stops on the 8 route had bus shelters? Because this was and still is an inner city route there would not have been wide pavements...witness above........ in many parts of it and narrow pavements would not have allowed erection of a bus shelter, even the BCT bent sheet type as seen in the picture. Did BCT put in setts at timing points? However if there had been a Bundy Clock it would be visible in the photograph as most stood at the pavements edge, although you will all tell me where there was one back against a wall and there was one , I can see it in my minds eye and think it was on the 11 route. Finally has anyone thought of asking David Harvey for a comment. I have been through all my BCT books, looking for any similar pictures, but apart from a rear view of it in Mr Harvey's latest book, Birmingham buses after withdrawal, I have seen nothing. This book notes that 1008 was one of only two Daimler COG5s fitted as a snowplough in November 1954 and sold for scrap on 31st May 1960. A stupid observation, but is there anyone out there who recorded the location of all BCT bus shelters?
Yes. Hockley had nine of the 41 refurbished buses in 1958. Between November 1954 and April 1958 this bus (1008 CVP 108) was used as a snowplough and therefore not in regular service. Another photo of it, in late 1960, shews it on Oxhill Road on the 70 route.My dad drove the No 8 for about ten years, he was based at Hockley garage.
There is a bundy clock against a wall in a post link below and a strangely positioned bench ...although you will all tell me where there was one back against a wall and there was one , I can see it in my minds eye and think it was on the 11 route.
Bob
It is a shame that the background, in the photo of CVP 108, in Post 1#, doesn't have a clear background. This photo does and there is no mistaking one of the chimneys at the Royal Mint (as it was then).I've just gone back to the book I found the photo in, and this photo is below the other image on the same page. It is obviously a different location (don't these books have proof readers). Though I have to believe the location is somewhere in the vicinity surely they can't be that far out can they?
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We covered the probable reason(s) for the bench position some time ago in another thread. Being situated, originally closer to the urinal it was felt by posters in that thread to be a modesty/aromatic matter.There is a bundy clock against a wall in a post link below and a strangely positioned bench ...
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/street-furniture.42920/post-562956
Carolina beat me to it ....