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Passages, Alleyways Gulletts and Snickets of Old Brum

Eric Gibson said:
Are we related Elaine? My grandfather was Thomas William Gibson and he had a son of the same name I think one of my dad's brothers.
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Hello Eric, yes my Grandad father's name was also Thomas William Gibson, my grandfather other siblings were Frank. Harry, Leonard and Florence. they are from the Ladywood Area of Birmingham
 
Have we done this one here?

Crick Lane Handsworth runs from Rose Hill Road by King Edwards Grammar School across Broughton Road, Holly Lane (see b & w photo) and ends at Hamstead Road (see modern map). It has been around since the early 1700's when it used to be the access lane to Crick farm, but now it mostly serves as garage & rear access to all the properties that have been built over the last 300 years (see modern image).


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Close Elaine but not quite I think, my dad was Leonard and he had a brother Frank and a sister Ada...…...and more and they were from Aston, maybe a looser link somewhere in there.
I have a family tree on the net if you would like to compare.
 
This is a copy of a post I have just made on the Origins of the Brummie Accent thread in response to a discussion about the word Snicket

I had not heard the word snicket before. When I was describing the Back-to-backs to a friend from Liverpool she said 'so there's no ginnel behind them?'.

This is a quote from Wikipedia.
Informants from the north west of England speak up in favour of the snicket, a noun of uncertain origin first recorded by the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) in a Victorian glossary of the dialect of the Lake District. Another term, ginnel, is also widely used in Greater Manchester and parts of Yorkshire.

I once lead a walk through what I have called the 'alleyway' and at the end of the walk, the walks programme organiser in thanking me said. 'We have walked through some narrow gullies and some long gullies but that was the longest, narrowest gulley we have been through'.
 
Midlandslass

Not that I have photos of either, but do you mean Seymour Street Balsall Heath that ran from Sherbourne Road to Belgrave Road or Seymour Street that ran from Albert Street to Masshouse Lane in the City?
 
We were in Shaw's Passage the other day en route for The Warehouse Cafe in Allison Street. It was absolutely tipping it down but at the junction of the two roads someone had planted silver birch trees and hung bird feeders from the branches. Even in the rain these were full of sparrows. It was a lovely sight! Unfortunately many of them flew away as we tried to photograph them.

I have been down there several times but only just noticed the Digbeth Community Garden which I hadn't seen before. It looks sadly neglected at this time of year but I'll keep my eye on it when the spring comes.
 

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Is there still a health food shop under the cafe? I remember there was one in Allison Street.
The was a Friends of the Earth office next door.
 
It's all changed round now A Sparks. The shop is where the Friends of the Earth Office was and the cafe is where the shop was on the ground floor (for which I was truly grateful - those stairs were so steep!). This was the first time we'd been since the changes and will definitely go again.
 
DavidGrain said:
This is a copy of a post I have just made on the Origins of the Brummie Accent thread in response to a discussion about the word Snicket

I had not heard the word snicket before. When I was describing the Back-to-backs to a friend from Liverpool she said 'so there's no ginnel behind them?'.

This is a quote from Wikipedia.
Informants from the north west of England speak up in favour of the snicket, a noun of uncertain origin first recorded by the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) in a Victorian glossary of the dialect of the Lake District. Another term, ginnel, is also widely used in Greater Manchester and parts of Yorkshire.

I once lead a walk through what I have called the 'alleyway' and at the end of the walk, the walks programme organiser in thanking me said. 'We have walked through some narrow gullies and some long gullies but that was the longest, narrowest gulley we have been through'.
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Ginnel and snicket were interchangeable in north Yorkshire when I lived there. Alley way was never used except by other Brummies/midlanders.
 
Hi Tony Barlone, as far as I know that we had no relatives in Buck Street, I did not know all of my Dad's side of the family, like his Aunts Uncles or Cousins - But my Dad his parent and brothers and sister lived in Jesmond Grove Pype Hayes Erdington - regards Elaine - sorry for the late reply
 
Eric Gibson said:
Close Elaine but not quite I think, my dad was Leonard and he had a brother Frank and a sister Ada...…...and more and they were from Aston, maybe a looser link somewhere in there.
I have a family tree on the net if you would like to compare.
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Hi Eric, sorry for the late reply as I have been really busy at work and sometimes not managed to get on site. - is it possible that I could have a look at your family tree on the Gibson link. to see if any names on there, could be linked to the names i have. Many thanks Elaine.
 
1579069250738.pngthere was an old factory down shaws, it had a yard outside. kept in the yard were dirty old hotdog carts that were scattered around the city of night, the sellers would wheel the cart out light the gas, and get the makings. buns etc out of a shed. the gravy/fat was still in there from last night ,even longer,then put on a white coat and off they went selling. the men were down and outs, making a few bob....This went on every night. we watched them. through the window. the rats were having feast on the old stale buns and beefburgers left around. the carts were owned by a ice cream company,, no names
so i hope you enjoyd it if you bought a hotdog or beefburger from these in the 70s:mask:
 
mikejee said:
Glad i am not into hot dogs or beefburgers
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you never know what goes on behind the scenes do you. i never give them a thought. i have eat them when i was in brum of a night. But when i called to see my friend to get some castings and saw that yard.i was sickend. no wonder the council shifted them carts of night and the blokes did a runner when they seen them
 
Local History said:
It's named as Cole Holloway, off Cromwell Lane. Now just a paved pathway through to Woodcock Lane.
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When I lived in that area (1950s) we always called this the Roman Gully. It was steep and narrow and it was paved and I think there was a handrail. It ran down from Woodcock Lane to Cromwell Lane. A distance of about 200 yds.
 
Dennis Williams said:
A new (to me) and very evocative photo of CLIVE PASSAGE, Snow Hill in 1960, from Alton's latest 'More of the 60s' book. Clive Passage is also featured in Post Nos 87 & 88.


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Dennis Williams said:
For the Gosta Green crowd, PENN STREET/GOPSALL STREET. Or rather the old pub that looks so sad now...another one bites the dust?



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Hi Dennis, I hope it is okay to reply to this old post. I used to live in Gopsal Street until 1968. The top end. Thank you so much for the photos. Great to see the Eagle and Ball , which has been renovated for the University students. This is the first photo I have seen of Penn Street before demolition and it has brought back so many memories. Hoping one day to stumble across Gopsal Street before demolition as our street doesn’t seem to have much history. A very grateful lady, thank you. Kind regards Sue
 
hi susan the photo dennis posted with the bunting out and a girl on the pavement...is that gopsal st...not knowing the area im not sure

lyn
 
Astoness said:
hi susan the photo dennis posted with the bunting out and a girl on the pavement...is that gopsal st...not knowing the area im not sure

lyn
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Hi Lyn. That is Penn Street, it continued from Gopsal Street. I was ecstatic when I found it this morning. I have seen some fantastic photos of town and all the areas I know well but the Eagle and Ball and Penn Street have been the only ones from my “patch” Of course I have seen photos of Belmont Row, A B Row, Curzon Street etc which have been great too.....but these 3 photos have been the nearest to my old home. , 49 Gopsal St. The Eagle and Ball was classed as being in Gopsal Street /Penn Street from what I have read.. Not too impressed with Gopsal Street in pic number 3 by the way but I wouldn’t be, would I. I hope this has made sense Lyn. Kind regards Sue.
 
Susan shaw said:
Hi Dennis, I hope it is okay to reply to this old post. I used to live in Gopsal Street until 1968. The top end. Thank you so much for the photos. Great to see the Eagle and Ball , which has been renovated for the University students. This is the first photo I have seen of Penn Street before demolition and it has brought back so many memories. Hoping one day to stumble across Gopsal Street before demolition as our street doesn’t seem to have much history. A very grateful lady, thank you. Kind regards Sue
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You are most welcome Sue!
 
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