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Marklew family

hello snowball we are all only to happy to help you....but anytime you are in brum lunch sounds good:) can i suggest that you read over all the information we have found and digest it and then decide if ann did indeed get married...all our evidence seems to point that she did but it is your family and you will want to be certain...i see that you have asked for details of the marriage between ann marklew and george colledge in 1840 which explains why you could not find ann on the 1841 under the name of marklew..you may have missed it but if you go to post 10 janice has posted a copy of the marriage certificate..if you click on it it will enlarge so that you can the save it to your pc..if you look at the names of the witnesses we beleive one of them is anns sister hannah marklew...sad to note that on the 1881 census george colledge was in the workhouse which does indicate that by then wife ann had passed away

by the way snowball my gt grandmother was a bradnock but that could be another story :D

lyn
 
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Snowball - only too pleased to help. Sometimes you need a fresh pair of eyes and someone who doesn't know the family stories. In case you want Fanny's certificate with Ann as witness (spotted by Rowan) then I am attaching it here as well. If you want any other certs and I can access them then let me know. We still don't know who the Ann Marklew buried in 1876 is but she now appears irrelevant. I think your Ann died in 1863.
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morning janice...have you found a death in 1863 for ann colledge then....i have not looked yet

lyn
 
Morning Lyn.
Yes - there is one Oct - Dec 1863 volume 6d page 6. I also found possible criminal records for a George Colledge (one before the marriage and one after - larceny and burglary - but no proof it is the correct one) wonder if the family did not approve of him?
Going out now so back later on to see what cases we can crack today - ha ha!
Janice
 
oops janice a possible skeleton in the cupboard then...that death sounds right..i have to go out now for a few hours..back later...
 
I have found Ann's marriage to GEORGE COLLEDGE. Ann's Surname is transcribed as MARKLESO.
They married 14th Sept. 1840 at St. Martin Birmingham. Witnesses are Thomas Wolfe & HANNAH MARKLEW so our Hannah does exist.
Ann is listed as a servant and George is a Brick maker (His Father's name is Thomas Colledge & Mother Ann)
George was baptised at Brinklow Warwickshire 15th Aug. 1813.
 
It all helps to build up a picture and link bits together. Are you able to post his baptism? Or is it just a record with no image - they drive me mad!
Janice
 
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In 1841 Ann & George were living in Garrison Lane with their daughter Emma who is age 3 & the name is transcribed as COLLIDYE
George died 1884 age 69 Birmingham Vol. 6d Page 116 Q1.
 
hi Janice I am sorry I am unable to post the image as I don't know how to do it .............. sorry :(
 
No worries. I just thought it might be good to see it. Did you use Ancestry? If so I might be able to find it.
Janice
 
hi rowan so ann and george married a couple of years after their daughter emma was born

lyn
 
It looks that way doesn't it. Perhaps another reason why the family did not talk of the marriage!! Just had a quick look and Emma was baptised in 1838.

Janice
 

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Thanks - hadn't looked yet so you have saved me a task.
Here are the 2 criminal records I found - both have George born abt 1815 - so both are possible! Records very faint. One has imprisonment for 3 months and the other is 1 year I think.
Janice
 

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Yet another spanner in the works!!
Baptised 22nd July 1811 SUSANNAH daughter of Charles Lea and Ann Marklew at Birmingham St. Martins.
Susannah MARKLEW married GEORGE SANDON 9th June1830 witness ANN MERKLEW at St Philip Birmingham.
Susannah SANDON died April 10 age 48 1859.
 
Good evening ladies, tonight I have ordered from the GRO the marriage certificate for Ann Marklew and her death certificate in 1863. Australia Post is notoriously slow these days, we live about 55 kms outside Sydney and I sometimes wonder if our postman only delivers those little brown GRO certificate envelopes as slowly as possible just to annoy me. I will confirm what the certificates say when they arrive, if you would like a copy of the certificates since you worked so diligently on the issue I can send you all copies if you wish. I will order more certificates probably tomorrow to cover all of the other individuals that you have identified.

ps. Lynn, my Bradnocks start with Joseph Bradnock (1863) and Sarah Atkins (1857) who were married in 1882 - any connection ?
 
hi snowball i will also look forward to the details on the certs you have ordered....
re my bradnocks....i will have to go into my files to try and find out if there is any conncection will also have to go back further than i have in my research of them...so far i only know that my grandmother kates maiden name was bradnock she married albert henry downes 1900 birm..will get back to you a via private message as soon as i can if i find any connection

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Only just read through this thread and notice on the criminal record posted by Janice for George Colledge the entry underneath is for a Charles Marklew, who was also imprisoned for 1 year for burglary ? coincidence or the ? same burglary.

I have also found the marriage between George and Ann at St Martins
 

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Ooh - interesting. I didn't notice that. I can't remember if I saw a Charles in the Marklew clan.
Janice
 
I thought I had come across the name Marklew before and when I checked my tree I found a William Marklew 1832-1857. Following his death his widow, Ann, nee Caswell, married William Henry Jewsbury 1830-1898 and they had a son, John Edward Jewsbury 1866-1920, who married my 2x great aunt Selina Emma Murcott.


William Marklew’s father was John b 1808. He was the brother of your Charles Lea Marklew 1791-1873 and amongst other siblings they had a sister, Hannah Marklew 1797-1860.

Unfortunately, Hannah was the mother of Edward Oxford who made an assassination attempt on our very special Queen Victoria! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Oxford
 
Wow - what a coincidence! Does that mean that somewhere in the dim past you are connected to Snowball who started off this chase for Ann Marklew?
Janice
 
Not directly Snowball's tree and mine have Ann Caswell as a connection, but as Ann was married to William Marklew who died, my connection came in when she then married William Henry Jewsbury and their son John Edward married into my Murcott family.

Complicated, but that's why I love genealogy!!! This needs more investigating!

Thanks Snowball for starting this thread.

Fortunately I've found the baptism for Ann Marklew on my St Martins CD - here it is
 

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Good evening bewdley, your right on the money young lady. Edward Marklew married Susanah Lea and they had 15 children. 6th child was Charles Lea (1791-1873) followed in due course by the 11th child Hannah (1797-1860) and the 14th child John Marklew (1804 abt - 1876 abt). My tree springs from Charles Lea while your comes from his brother John.
Also can confirm John's son William Marklew (1832-1857) is referenced in my tree.
Also Hannah Marklew married George Oxford and it was their son Edward (b 1818) who had the misfortune to attempt to assassinate Queen Victoria - I'm sure it was a simple misunderstanding ! Your compatriots on the site have already revealed some of my ancestors were guilty of both larceny and burglary and now you are adding attempted murder to the list - is this some sort of anti Marklew vendetta you ladies are carrying out ?
 
I doubt it! I think it adds a bit of fun to find "skeletons in the closet". It also shows how families and circumstances may have changed over time.
Janice
 
Oh Snowball, I hope you don’t think my/our interest is some sort of vendetta, after all none of us are responsible for what went before and personally I find this all very interesting. It helps build up a picture of our forefather’s lives as it happened.

What comes over to me is the horror and suffering Hannah (and her Marklew family) went through at the hands of George Oxford both before and especially during her marriage to Edward’s father and goes someway in helping to understand the problems Edward had to deal with.

Edward was tried for High Treason on 6 July 1840 and was acquitted “Insane”.

Here is a link to the trial itself

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?name=18400706

If you scroll down to Reference Number: t18400706-1877 it gives a detailed account of the trial, it’s rather long winded, but so very, very interesting!

bewdley
 
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