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Cars in the postwar period

ChrisM

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Mike Jenks's splendid pictures of his dad's cars, shown in other recent threads in this subforum, prompted me to remember my own family's motoring experiences in the immediate post-war years.

It will be hard for younger forum members to visualise just how difficult it was to obtain new consumer goods in the years immediately after the war and how great was the unsatisfied demand. Everything seemed destined for export so that we would not starve and, with a bit of luck, not become any more bankrupt than we already were. This was particularly the case with new cars. Even if you could afford one - and it was a big "if" -- they were impossible to obtain. And anything newish that did appear on the secondhand market was sold at a huge premium over its original new selling price. There was a considerable racket: new cars seemed to get into the hands of those with a legitimate need such as doctors, the miraculously lucky and, particularly, those "in the know". Any individual purchaser had the opportunity, if he wished to take advantage of it, to cash in at any time and sell the vehicle at perhaps 50% more than he had paid for it. It was some time before new car buyers were forced to sign an undertaking whereby they would retain their car for a specified length of time. But no doubt there were always plenty of methods of getting around that.

In all those years my own father's frustration with this situation grew and grew. Your only options were to buy either a newish car at an outrageous price, or something as old as the one you had already got. The one way to buy something decent at a sensible price would have been to go for a new car - and you couldn't do that. His Ford Prefect, bought new in early 1940 in anticipation of petrol shortages and replacing a thirsty Ford V8, had served him well throughout the war years - he had an essential user's petrol allowance - but it was now exhausted, rusting away, down-at-heel and falling apart, a bit like the country as a whole. Somehow or other it still took us to Devon every year - eight or nine hour journeys, through the middle of every town - the luggage piled up on the open boot lid and covered with a khaki Home Guard groundsheet. It always got us back home, sometimes battered as in the year when a couple of girls in a tiny, early-1930s Austin Seven ran into the back of us in Newton Abbot, and one occasion without the middle of its three forward gears which had gone absent whilst we were at the furthest point from home. All the time, as the new models started to appear, like the Ford Pilot, the Morris Minor and the ultra-modern Standard Vanguard and Armstrong Siddeleys, we were increasingly overtaken by these desirable machines as we trundled along at our maximum cruising speed of about 40 m.p.h. It wasn't until 1952 that my father decided that he had to do something. And so, if he couldn't beat them, he joined them by pulling a few strings at Standard-Triumph to whom he supplied copper and brass. As a result he was permitted to hand over goodness knows how many months of salary in exchange for a new, grey Triumph Mayflower. This was a revelation: apart from its newness and its independent front suspension it actually had a radio AND a heater. The old Ford Prefect went on its way, various parts of its chassis moving independently of each other, but still worth to the dealer about £100, a depreciation of £50 over twelve years.

But my father's heart was always in big Fords. At around the time he took delivery of the Mayflower, Ford announced their new MkI Consuls and Zephyrs. He was in a main dealer's showroom in Birmingham at crack of dawn the very next day to put his name down for a Zephyr Six. He proudly reported back that he had been given the code Z2 which meant, he said, that he would be allocated the second available car. Nothing more was heard and some time later I was discussing with a friend at school the non-arrival of this car. My friend advised me that his father too had been given the same code by the same dealer. Clearly the "2" signified "yer average, dumb punter whom we can continue to treat like **** as we have done for the last six years" whilst the OTHER list, with no doubt a "1" in it, contained all the names of the deserving cases, almost certainly including mates in the trade. Gradually, though, the supply situation eased and in the middle of 1954 - nine years after the end of the war - my father took delivery of a new Zephyr which he had managed to obtain from Chambers in Sutton. Many weeks later the original dealer - from whom he had no doubt purchased his previous two Fords in the 1930s when his custom was more valuable to them - contacted him and graciously advised him that a car was now, after a two-year wait, available for him to buy. I sincerely hope that he told them where to stick it!

Below are the Ford Prefect (in spring 1943 or 1944 when only three or four years old, with your humble correspondent seated on the running board); the Triumph Mayflower (1952, new) and the Ford Zephyr (in Lincolnshire on my last day in the RAF, pictured with Danny, a fellow sufferer - Sept.1956).

Chris
 
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My dad's 1st car (van) in Grindleford Rd Beeches Estate 1950's. It was a Ford, and I remember that when he put his foot on the accelerator the windscreen wipers use to stop. Also one day going down the Bristol Rd to the Lickeys, my sister noticed a wheel going alongside us on the road. It was our front wheel. Dad went back along the road, found the wheel nuts and the wheel was put back on. It would be hard to do that on today's Bristol Rd ! The 2nd photo shows it had got to Sutton park - My Mom is holding on to it -amazing what she wore to go to the park !

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This was my fathers first car after a string of motor bikes and which I passed my test in at Yardley Wood Rd. test centre in 1955.
 
hi oldMohawk just found your pic of your dads 1st car Ford 10cwt model no E83W, ford wipers in those days worked of the vaccum from the manifold open throttle no vaccum no wipers great idea! never seen one with windows must have been specially fitted, cheers alan.
 
hi oldMohawk just found your pic of your dads 1st car
Hi Alan,
My Dad's 2nd car (van) was a Bedford Dormobile? with a gear change on the steering column. He was teaching me to drive and when I tried to change gear, I wrenched the gear handle completely off ! He wasn't pleased, and I didn't drive it again.
Phil
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Relation of mine had a Morris 8 and was so proud of his first car. Took us all out for the day, car was great until i jumped on the running board and it fell off. Turns out it was all rotten as a pear.
 
Hi my now husband then boyfriend's first car was an A35 van a bit posh it was two tone, we loved it I made seat covers for it, it was about £380 new in 1962.
 
hi phil from what i remember of Bedford Dormobiles it was usually the sliding door that came off in your hand. They dont make em like they used to!
Alan.
 
Hi Alan,
I'd forgotten about the sliding doors, we never took any family photos of the Dormobile. I now remember the doors could jam in the open position, but my dad just drove along with them open. I'll have to look up the vehicle on the internet and refresh my memory of what they looked like - seating etc.
Phil
 
Thanks OH, there's certain a lot of variants on that site. Our's didn't have an opening roof. We must have had the 'bog standard' model and it was quite flat on the front. You just beat me replying to your post, the link worked for me after I adjusted FF NoScript:)
 
Om if you go to wiki there are some interesting links from that ...I use opera and IE the link is working in Opera but not on IE ? :rolleyes:
 
lovely old CA Bedford pics when i worked at Garretts garage (park road thread) we used to service Walls ice cream vans which were converted CA's with a Canadian petrol generator in the back to power up the freezer it was far too heavy & knocked out clutches & rear springs regularly but those vans were the best around at the time for converting for different uses.
 
Sir Issy with a couple of his babies, including the first one off the track. How many of you around my age lusted after one of these when they first came out.

Phil,
 

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Yeh the old minis were great in the uk. Unfortunately the original design theme did not translate into larger vehicles well, apart from the 1100 series and trying to stick to it with its direct stearing at an awkward angle may have been one of the reasons for demise. Although transverse front wheel drive is by far the largest sector still, much has changed : power stearing; more powerful 4 cyls. return to conventional steel spring suspension. But for a while...
 
My first car. Taken in 1951 in what I believe to be an Austin 10 (more knowledgable on the site can appraise and advise otherwise) Well to be honest it was my uncle's car but a lad could dream he was racing at Brands Hatch can't he?:grinsmile:

You may just see the outline of the portable radio on the back seat (no in built sets in those days) and the obligatory tartan blanket.

Will.

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Something post war motorist's didn't want to see behind them.

Phil
 

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Rob

I have got to be honest I don't know, but it is in Birmingham and it looks so familiar.

Phil
 
Hi Alan,
I'd forgotten about the sliding doors, we never took any family photos of the Dormobile. I now remember the doors could jam in the open position, but my dad just drove along with them open. I'll have to look up the vehicle on the internet and refresh my memory of what they looked like - seating etc.
Phil
I used to drive an Austin van fitted with sliding doors.I used to drive with the door slid open(more pose value).The problem wasn't the door jamming open,it was that every time I braked,the door would SLAM shut with terrific force.Remember in those days,(1960-61)we used to give a lot of hand signals (no, not that kind!),it's a wonder there wasn't a load of one-armed drivers around,....Mal
 
hi Mal was it this type although this is a morriss they did do an Austin badged version(compliments of Wiki);)
 
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hi Mal was it this type although this is a morriss they did do an Austin badged version(compliments of Wiki);)

Hi,no it was the later one than that.I don't remember the model no.,but the driver sat over the front wheels,and the engine was under the centre of the three front seats.They were built around 1960-62,......Mal.
 
My Dad had one of those flat fronted Morris Vans. MOG 227 I htink but could be worn as my first Moggie Minor was VOG 223.

Was this the later van Mally?
 
Think they were known as the J2 followed later by the J4.

That rings a bell,I think it was a J4.A friend of mine had a J2 like the one in the photograph.I also had a Commer van for a while,the one with the narrow track front wheels.It was nick-named 'the oo gauge' van,alluding to the oo gauge model railway system,where the track gauge was smaller than scale size.Apparently the scale gauge should have been 18mm,but they actually ran on 16.5mm track.What useless information sticks in our heads,eh! Does anybody remember these vans,also the bit about the model railway,....Mal.
 
Commer Van - I moved house using one of these after the van hire people let me down with the larger Ford van I had booked - it was so unstable.
 
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