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Alltouraine
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Hi, would anyone have a photo/or can remember a butchers called Wool.Co.Ltd Hide-skin & Butchers they were on New Canal St. It is were my great uncle worked in the 40s. He was called James Allaway.
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BernardR
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Probably more a processor of the hide/skin etc than butchers. It sounds like a similar company to the one on Bradford Street that had a similar name The City & District Butchers’ Hide, Skin, Fat and Wool Co.Ltd?
I recall my father used to have the contract to clean the chimneys there - not a nice job but guess it paid OK.
I recall my father used to have the contract to clean the chimneys there - not a nice job but guess it paid OK.
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There were several companies that dealt with meat by-products. Having once visited (in london) a factory that made glue and gelatine. i can assure anyone who has not experienced it, that the smell is vile at these establishments. The firm in new canal st was Butchers' Hide Skin and Wool Co.and was on the east side of the street near the south end between no 1 and no 10. According to Google maps, it seems now to be a large car park for one of the factories.
mike
mike
hi there allteraine
i can remember the hide and skin from my child hood
because my grand parents lived next door they owned
the transport cafe right next door
and the cafe had two gates in the back yard one was for
typoo,s tea yard and the other one was forthe hide and skin
and my grand parents whom was ernie jelf and vicroria hinton
and they used to keep a jack russell dog and a monkey
and the owners used to come around into the shop
and asked ernie can we borrow the dog again as we have got
those dammed rats again and i would go around with them
into the yard and watch and when i seen all those skins
with its smell it openend my eyes indeed i went home
back to lichfield rd and told my mom all about it
best wishes astonian ;;;;
i can remember the hide and skin from my child hood
because my grand parents lived next door they owned
the transport cafe right next door
and the cafe had two gates in the back yard one was for
typoo,s tea yard and the other one was forthe hide and skin
and my grand parents whom was ernie jelf and vicroria hinton
and they used to keep a jack russell dog and a monkey
and the owners used to come around into the shop
and asked ernie can we borrow the dog again as we have got
those dammed rats again and i would go around with them
into the yard and watch and when i seen all those skins
with its smell it openend my eyes indeed i went home
back to lichfield rd and told my mom all about it
best wishes astonian ;;;;
izzy eckerslike
master brummie
I remember in the 1960's the smell was absolutely atrocious, the skins & hides were carted down from the nearby meat market in Bradford street & in summer there must have been flies & maggots galore, you often wonder how people would take such jobs-particularly as the 60's had low unemployment.
Towns usually tried to get certain obnoxious trades banned, or confined to certain areas. thus ( https://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=42769&strquery=noxious%20trades ) :
Obnoxious trades never gained a foothold in Leyton. A soap-boiler was rated near Holloway Down, Leytonstone, in 1775, (fn. 167) but in 1800, when the stench from a slaughtering and boiling-house there was considered unwholesome, the vestry ordered the proprietor to move. (fn. 168) When the British Land Co. developed the same area in 1871 a covenant banned noxious trades and manufactures. (fn. 169) The only offensive trade reported in 1885 was fish-frying. (fn. 170)
mike
Lloyd
master brummie
The Butchers Hide, Skin, Fat and Wool Company's name can be seen in the background of this view in Bradford Street (yes it's a Midland Red Coach - no surprise there!) which was later covered over by the new owners name board. They also smashed off the animal heads over the windows, despite there being a listed condition on the premises as it "offended their religion to depict animals in that way".
izzy eckerslike
master brummie
I think that was the incinerator with the gigantic chimney stack that could be seen for miles belching out foul smelling smoke, all manner of stuff was burnt there inc unfit animal carcasses offal etc.
As a lad have i have already said my grand parents lived next door in the cafe
which was a big transport cafe for lorry drivers which stayed there when ever they came to the birmingham market or bringing cattle from the country side
even the typoo.s big lorry drivers from the other end of the country would book in and stay over night, alot of people did not know that the railway bridges
that are down along new cannal street going towards digbeth had arches
and they was used for stocking and holding cattle whilst awaiting to movr down to the hide and skin yard always on a sundays mornings sometime they would
bring to lots on a sunday mornings / afternoons
i used to love watching them bring them down the street along new cannal street
there would be about fifty to one hundred of cattle .sheep pigs cows
they would take the whole rd up and on the payments walking along
some would stop and look and stair in through the steamed up windows of the shop
i would wipe the steam off the windowswith my sleave of my elbow
but when they did stop and stair through i would shout for my nan
and jump down off the chairs i was petifyed
some times some would escape just like thompsons the butchers
and the men would run after it ,
i have seen goats alsu brought down
i used to get up early every sunday morning and either catch the 39 up to dale end
and walk down the aley ways to get to new cannal street
in time to see the cattle coming from the archest next door and also to feed my nans monkey before she did andtake old patch a walk a walk up barthlemew st and to the old park as i called itit was an old church yard i beleive at the top
of bordesley street and talk to old horris the keeper when he was on is old hercules police bike but as i said alot of people did not knowabout the rail way arches
where they kept the cattle in holding penns untilsunday morming some time now if
you walked down new cannal st towards digbeth on the right hand of the road she can still get abit of whiff of the cattle especialy in the summer
i think there is a pototoe dealer ther now and some car repairiers whom use them now , thats my memory of the hide and skin i beleive they moved to some where in dudley along the same rd as the black country musuem
have a nice day every body best wishes astonian ;;;
which was a big transport cafe for lorry drivers which stayed there when ever they came to the birmingham market or bringing cattle from the country side
even the typoo.s big lorry drivers from the other end of the country would book in and stay over night, alot of people did not know that the railway bridges
that are down along new cannal street going towards digbeth had arches
and they was used for stocking and holding cattle whilst awaiting to movr down to the hide and skin yard always on a sundays mornings sometime they would
bring to lots on a sunday mornings / afternoons
i used to love watching them bring them down the street along new cannal street
there would be about fifty to one hundred of cattle .sheep pigs cows
they would take the whole rd up and on the payments walking along
some would stop and look and stair in through the steamed up windows of the shop
i would wipe the steam off the windowswith my sleave of my elbow
but when they did stop and stair through i would shout for my nan
and jump down off the chairs i was petifyed
some times some would escape just like thompsons the butchers
and the men would run after it ,
i have seen goats alsu brought down
i used to get up early every sunday morning and either catch the 39 up to dale end
and walk down the aley ways to get to new cannal street
in time to see the cattle coming from the archest next door and also to feed my nans monkey before she did andtake old patch a walk a walk up barthlemew st and to the old park as i called itit was an old church yard i beleive at the top
of bordesley street and talk to old horris the keeper when he was on is old hercules police bike but as i said alot of people did not knowabout the rail way arches
where they kept the cattle in holding penns untilsunday morming some time now if
you walked down new cannal st towards digbeth on the right hand of the road she can still get abit of whiff of the cattle especialy in the summer
i think there is a pototoe dealer ther now and some car repairiers whom use them now , thats my memory of the hide and skin i beleive they moved to some where in dudley along the same rd as the black country musuem
have a nice day every body best wishes astonian ;;;
brianpursall
New Member
Butcher’s Hide, Skins, Fat & Woolmarket hall, Bradford Street, Birmingham.
Original Market open air at Smithfield (Bull Ring). Specialist market opened 25 May 1850, utilised for wool market 29 July 1851.
In 1890 the Managing Director was Edward Tailby, works addresses - 48, Albert Street, Dale End (between Moor St and Fazeley St) & 1, New Canal Street. ( this address was shared with George Payne, grocer, Post & M. O. O. & S. B.)
My ggrandfather Thomas Roberts Pursall was the chief clerk, later company secretary between 1882 and 1890 and was involved in the planning and construction of the market hall.
Original Market open air at Smithfield (Bull Ring). Specialist market opened 25 May 1850, utilised for wool market 29 July 1851.
In 1890 the Managing Director was Edward Tailby, works addresses - 48, Albert Street, Dale End (between Moor St and Fazeley St) & 1, New Canal Street. ( this address was shared with George Payne, grocer, Post & M. O. O. & S. B.)
My ggrandfather Thomas Roberts Pursall was the chief clerk, later company secretary between 1882 and 1890 and was involved in the planning and construction of the market hall.
