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the beehive pub soho hill
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Jayell
master brummie
I've just had a quick browse through the 1841 census for Handsworth with Soho - District 2, which covers Soho Street and Soho Hill, but I can't see any pub or drinking establishment mentioned so I guess your 1845-1849 estimate for it being built is right.
I've attached the enumeration district information. Hope it comes out ok as its the first time I've added a photo on this new set-up
Judy
I've attached the enumeration district information. Hope it comes out ok as its the first time I've added a photo on this new set-up
Judy
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well it had to happen...still standing a few days ago..today its gone pic 2 with what used to be dennisons watch co to the left and to the right what used to be rusty lees restaurant..pic 3 close up of rusty lees restaurant..for years i was hoping to get the beehive that was affixed to the front of the pub quite high up but it was not to be...still never mind i did come away with a brick..im happy with that
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Jayell
master brummie
View attachment 113925 View attachment 113923 View attachment 113924 well it had to happen...still standing a few days ago..today its gone pic 2 with what used to be dennisons watch co to the left and to the right what used to be rusty lees restaurant..pic 3 close up of rusty lees restaurant..for years i was hoping to get the beehive that was affixed to the front of the pub quite high up but it was not to be...still never mind i did come away with a brick..im happy with that
Thank you for those sad photos Lyn. The Beehive (as it used to be) was my Dad's local and part of my growing up as it was at the bottom of my road (Soho Avenue) and opposite my school (Soho College). I never saw Rusty Lee's restaurant as we left Handsworth in 1956, but I did have a friend who lived in one of that row of houses by the surname of Bennett. Often used to cut through the side of the Beehive, and through a Court of houses into Terrace Road, as a short cut into Villa Road. Sad to see your memories go, but after the arson last year I guess there was no other option.
yes judy always sad to see a bit of our history going...i think the old dennisons factory will be next to go along with that row of buildings (that you friend lived in) what is worrying to me is the building to the right of them dated 1826..seen here on street view..i am going to do some research on that building to see if the year is correct and will post about that on the soho hill thread
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.5...4!1sMcclSdqT-HBSDrPxvUbjNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.5...4!1sMcclSdqT-HBSDrPxvUbjNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
paul stacey
master brummie
Cannot tell you how sad this makes me. There will soon be non of my old Brum left at this rate.Paul
Very sad news. I used to live there, when my father Edward (Ted) Lloyd held the license. Probably around 1960 - 2 ish. My parents ran several pubs but this was the only pub we had which had a garden! It was an interesting place, with a mix of cultures and none of them mixed. My mum asked the West Indians what they liked to eat and the answer was goat. So she 'invented' curried kid sandwiches and sold loads and loads of them!
As someone who also lived there through happy childhood years, may I echo the sentiments expressed now the building has been demolished and will be no more. I fully understand change has to happen and many public houses have suffered a similar fate or had a different change of use, but it is almost cruel in the manner with which whoever owns the property, left it to become derelict and unviable as a business premises. As has been said "very sad". Allanbrum
That cream coloured house next door was the home from around the 1840s of William Dowler, whose family business was mostly held on Great Charles Street. They were bell hangers, brassfounders, Military ornament makers, button, and whistle makers (my interest) from as early as the 18th century.View attachment 113925View attachment 113923View attachment 113924 well it had to happen...still standing a few days ago..today its gone pic 2 with what used to be dennisons watch co to the left and to the right what used to be rusty lees restaurant..pic 3 close up of rusty lees restaurant..for years i was hoping to get the beehive that was affixed to the front of the pub quite high up but it was not to be...still never mind i did come away with a brick..im happy with that
Radiorails
master brummie
Most threads open up at the most recent post, but now and again some open at post 1#. This is one of them.
I noticed the skep high up on the upper wall (left side). A nice touch. I guess it was easier to install that the more familiar wooden type hive.
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Pub Historian
Before my drinking days sadly .... how I wish I could have gone into the pub when it was furnished with bamboo around the walls and the jukebox had 50 reggae singles installed. It would have been great to witness the Jamaican-style dominoes! Man, the players are so animated in this game. Last time I witnessed a slam-dom was in the Yorkshire Grey in Winson Green - nearly had my pint over!
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John Allan Pope was the licensee from May 1947 to May 1956. Thomas Beech succeeded him.
Oh that's sad! It was home to me and my sister Diane in the early 60's when Mum and Dad (Ted and Dorn Lloyd) ran it. Mum made a fortune selling 'curried kid' sarnies. The place needed redecorating when we moved in and I was allowed to choose my own wallpaper. I'll have to go and see if I can see any trace of it and pick up a brick!! Moving out from central Brum, this was the only pub we had which had a garden. It was once a lovely place to be!
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Have you got a pic of them for use on my website please? Did they run any other pubs? Cheers, Kieron
Hi
sorry I wish I did have a photo of them at the Beehive.
The list of pubs is as follows:
The White Horse, Macdonald Street
The Ivy Green, Edward Street
The Navigation, Summer Row
The Beehive, Soho Hill
The Summerhill Tavern (aka the Free House), Summerhill Road. (STILL standing - a Chinese Restaurant)
then CIU clubs (another story ....).
Dawn
ps. I challenge you to find photos of the White Swan and also the Navigation ( I cant!). Both long since gone!
sorry I wish I did have a photo of them at the Beehive.
The list of pubs is as follows:
The White Horse, Macdonald Street
The Ivy Green, Edward Street
The Navigation, Summer Row
The Beehive, Soho Hill
The Summerhill Tavern (aka the Free House), Summerhill Road. (STILL standing - a Chinese Restaurant)
then CIU clubs (another story ....).
Dawn
ps. I challenge you to find photos of the White Swan and also the Navigation ( I cant!). Both long since gone!
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Pub Historian
Hi Dawn
Many thanks for the list - the White Horse was a Dare's house and I always wonder what their beers were like? Any old photo of your parents together would be smashing, doesn't have to be in the Beehive. Maybe a short biog of them - I might then tackle each pub's history - though I now have a backlog of pubs linked with Lyn's Villa Tavern!
Cheers, Kieron
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Pub Historian
Slight amendment - I'm fairly sure it was on the corner of MacDonald Street and Bishop Street
I always thought it was Rea Street but will certainly bow to someone who knows better as I was very young when we moved in (about1953).
The license was in Mum's name and Dad, I believe, still drove a (horse-led) milk cart. It was a Dare's house and I know from what mum told me that it was a 'working' family firm with regular pub contact. She never found either Ansells or M&B to have the same attitude towards its managers.
I will go picture-hunting tomorrow!
The license was in Mum's name and Dad, I believe, still drove a (horse-led) milk cart. It was a Dare's house and I know from what mum told me that it was a 'working' family firm with regular pub contact. She never found either Ansells or M&B to have the same attitude towards its managers.
I will go picture-hunting tomorrow!
Any old photo? - here is one. I can't verify which pub but it definitely isn't the Navvie or the Free House (layout is wrong). It might be the Beehive or the Ivy Green. I have given a list of the relevant pubs. Dad also 'relieved' many of the pubs between the City Centre and Dudley for Dares, Ansells and M&B in his time.
I come from a long history of local licensees and one day I hope to find time to start to pull the info together.
