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Erdington Hall

Viv
Aston furnace was on a site at the end of furnace lane, approximately where the Crocodile works was later built
 
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I think the aerial shot was another House Viv and not the Hall?.
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Thanks Brumgum, agree. Just had another look at the details on the Britain from Above site and it definitely was another house, as the photo was taken in 1939. Looks too far away from the River too.

Thanks Mike for the Aston Furnace info. Viv.
 
I think from the c1915 map below , that the building you are discussing must be the pumping station (in red). It is also shown on the c 1937 map, but not labelled.

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Thanks Mike. What a fancy pumping station! Must have been a great place to work.

Found this 1695 map of churches and Erdington Hall is marked on there, I presume because of its chapel. Think it would have been pretty significant to appear on the map. Viv.
 

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Just re-read this thread and there was a double moat for defence purposes according to post #7 and a chapel within the moat. So the walls in the photo post #31 must have been the moat walls. And the chapel would have been there in 1695 as shown on the map of chapels (and marked as Erdington Hall) on the map in post #28. A nice snippet of history, all sadly gone. Viv.
 
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This must be the Pumping station at Saltley sewage works. The map below has it marked. Curiously larger scale maps of around that time show the building more clearly , but do not name it
 

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Erdington Hall, Gravelly Hill, Warwickshire, England near Birmingham Present Owner 1884 Reverend Lawrence Compton from the Bracebridge family, London With cousin Marianne the trip from Edgebaston by omnibus to Birmingham –the High Street Station-another omnibus took us into the country. We got off at Erdington Hall. (A photograph was sent to Marianne at Edgebarton. I brought it to Aunt Elizabeth Blessner Philadelphia for she knew the place-born and educated in England at Birmingham and Leamington at her Aunt Ann Walker’s school opened after 1812
 
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Had a nose around on the Net, and put together a few snippets of info. It seems debatable as to where exactly the first Hall was built and the Jennen's re-build date is not 100% certain. But what a fascinating history it's had. I know the area reasonably well and never knew anything about the Hall. (I went to school in Stockland Green and it was never mentioned - a serious failing of school history lessons in my opinion which didn't seem to look too closely at local history). Anyway, back to the Hall here are the 'snippets':


Erdington Hall/Manor House

Erdington family had a fortified, double moated manor house on banks of River Tame above Bromford Bridge (1166-1441)
In 13th/14th centuries it had a chapel
There was also a mill (Bromford Mill/Forge)
According to historian Wm Hutton the family lived at the Manor in "great opulence for 400 years"
Erdington Manor house was demolished in 17th century

Either John or Humphrey Jennens built new Erdington Hall (in mid to late 1600s) and it's location was either on the site of original manor house or nearby
The Hall was a brick building with stone dressings and Dutch gables, 3 storeys and attics (in the style of building dating 1662)
Humphrey Jennens held the Hall on lease for life +21 years after his death (leased by Sir Charles Holt, Lord of Erdington manor)
The Hall was by this time part moated
Jennens became wealthy from smelting iron in Leicestershire. He now obtained land rights in Tame Valley and set up his second smelting furnace here felling trees in surrounding woods to make charcoal for smelting process. Furnace position was ideal in its proximity to Birmingham and with industrialisation demanding much iron
The Hall was enlarged in 1782
Estate also had a farm, Erdington Hall Farm, with 260 acres
1858 a farmer, William Wheelwright, lived at Hall
The Hall was still occupied in 1908, but demolished in 1912 when Tyburn Road was laid

Viv.
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Hi, I'm a new member and wondered if anyone could help me. I was born in a very large grand manor house in Birmingham in 1968 not privileged but my parents were the caretakers. We lived in the huge attics and was much fun as a child as when everyone left we could use the vast grounds.The building had several uses along the lines of adult education. We moved to Dorset the summer before my 8th birthday but have the chance to revisit next week. The only trouble is I can't find it on Google maps, it looks like it has been demolished and rebuilt with a new road too. Being very young when we left, I'm afraid I can't remember the name of the house, which as I recall was Elizabethan? It had stylised gables of the period and the old stables were modernised as a hall while we lived there as a community cinema and youth club. It was on Kingsbury Road (to the front, no.75) next to Marshdield Gardens and the grounds backed into Erdington Hall Road. The other side adjoined wheelright road. I walked to Ryland Road for school everyday whilst my brother went off to Jeffray's. If anyone could help me, I would be very grateful.
 
It looks like that it was Handsworth & Erdington Technical College (1966 map) previously named Kingsbury Continuation Day College (1951 map).
 
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Frothblower said:
Fascinating stuff. I was born in Erdington Hall road and I was always lead to believe Erdington Hall was at the top of this road,how wrong can you be.
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Hi, I was trying to trace my birthplace (1968 but left before I was 8 so don't remember details). I was born in the Elizabethan manor house at the top of Erdington Hall Road that you mentioned but don't know what it was called. Someone on the forum has said it was the Kingsbury continuation day college in 1951 but don't know what it was before that. I've looked on Google maps to visit next week but it looks like it has been demolished and rebuilt with a new road to boot would appreciate any information you have.
 
MWS said:
It looks like that it was Handsworth & Erdington Technical College (1966 map) previously named Kingsbury Continuation Day College (1951 map).
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Thanks for this. Do you have any other info, past or present?
 
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Here's a map 1966...

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Thank you so much for getting this info. The building development that is there now has a new road running through the middle of it called shepherd's green house road, a nod to its former glory. I say new, it's new to me. I was hoping to go back and see my old house, even maybe the lady I saw to every day as a child, Gladys, that everyone said was not there! Thanks again.
 
ELS said:
Hi, I was trying to trace my birthplace (1968 but left before I was 8 so don't remember details). I was born in the Elizabethan manor house at the top of Erdington Hall Road that you mentioned but don't know what it was called. Someone on the forum has said it was the Kingsbury continuation day college in 1951 but don't know what it was before that. I've looked on Google maps to visit next week but it looks like it has been demolished and rebuilt with a new road to boot would appreciate any information you have.
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I do believe it's a domestice refuge house called Shepherd Green house. ( a new build )
 
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Thanks Alex for updating the link - I’ve edited the post where it quotes the old link. Shall merge the two threads too. Others may be interested as there may be earlier unseen posts. Viv.
 
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This newspaper clipping gives some background about the Hall digging further back in its history to Norman times. It’s answered one query I have in that, yes the original Hall was double moated, with a drawbridge and it had a fortified tower. Viv.

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Source: British Newspaper Archive
 
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