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Charlotte Street

Judjing by its position it appears to be no 94.(shown in red on 1955 map). In later years it is shown as part of other factories (as on the map below). In 1890-1913 it was Samuel Smith & Son, merchants, but they had gone by 1921, and by 1932 it was Myers pens occupying the site. I think their factory a little up the road had absorbed the site
mike

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Also found something via this PDF Science Mus Brief - Birmingham City Council

(will open a PDF to open or download to save.

Although there are currently no statutory or locally
listed buildings currently on the site, part of the former
Elkington Works fronting Newhall Street and a number
of adjoining associated warehouses are of historical
interest within the Conservation Area, and their
retention and restoration as part of the development is
required. A building of note at 94 Charlotte Street
should also be retained and incorporated into the
redevelopment. Plan 5 identifies those buildings on the
site which are encouraged for retention and for which
Conservation Area Consent to demolish may not be
granted.
English Heritage have indicated that the highlighted
buildings within the site shown on Plan 5 are
considered worthy of assessment for Satutory Listing as
representing the special character of the Jewellery
Quarter. They are likely to be included in a package
of additional Statutory Listed Buildings proposed by
English Heritage. In advance of submission of a
detailed planning application the City Council will
require a historic survey of the surviving buildings of the
former Elkington Works as well as a below and above
ground archaeological desk based survey to allow a
full assessment of buildings/structures which should
remain as part of the development.
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I know that this thread is over 6 years old but I only found it today, so apolgies.
This is indeed part of Central Motors from the 1970s. It was the Parts department for retail customers.
The upper floors were part of the stock storage areas. The main building, now demolished, was to the left
in the photo and was the service and also body/paint repair shop. I worked there from 1972 to 1976.
 
I found this document on display in the Passchendaele Museum this week. It appears to belong to a Belgian refugee from the Great War who fetched up in Stourbridge. 94 Charlotte Street was the address of the Belgian Consulate at the time.DSCN5674.JPG
 
Welcome tomkil. It's interesting what Birmingham related items turn up in all parts of the world. I've had a look on Streetview and sadly I think the building is no longer there. An interesting post and it's now set me wondering why the Belgian Consulate was in Birmingham. Hopefully someone knows. Viv.
 
Oh yes Lyn, didn't read the earlier posts. Thanks. Well hopefully it's the building. And I'd expect the Belgian Consulate would be listed in a directory somewhere. Viv.
 
thats what i was thinking viv..should be able to confirm it...the building looks kind of sad and lonely stuck in the middle of the new builds...must be a good reason why its still standing..most likely listed but that does not mean much these days

lyn
 
Having a quick look at this it may be that Myers and Son Ltd took over the premises in Charlotte Street from Samuel Smith around 1916.

They kept the premises until they enlarged the firm and relocated to Langley Green in 1938.

The link to the Belgian Consulate may be that Adolph Myers was the Hon Sec for the Consulate in 1916.
 
Well done Pedro ! Nice find. Maybe there were a fair number of Belgians in Birmingham during WW1 ? Was there an influx if refugees ? If not, why have consulate representation there ? I've absolutely no idea about this. Viv.
 
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October 1915 a part of a report in the Birmingham Mail

It looks that the firm Myers and Son have deep Belgian Connections and Adolph Myers is playing a big role in helping the refugees in BM.

We have a Thread for Belgian refugees by someone who may be able to enlighten further.
 
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October 1915 a part of a report in the Birmingham Mail

It looks that the firm Myers and Son have deep Belgian Connections and Adolph Myers is playing a big role in helping the refugees in BM.

We have a Thread for Belgian refugees by someone who may be able to enlighten further.
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The chap in question, and I hope he picks this up, would be...
Antoni Vitti….Researching WW1 Belgian Refugees
 
Good point Pedro.

Tomkil - I shall copy the post to the Belgian Refugee thread. Hope that's ok with you. That way Antoni Vitti might pick it up. Viv.
 
This view of the Birmingham & Fazeley Canal from Fleet Street. But those new apartments is on Charlotte Street at Newhall Square.

 
I have seen the photo in post 18 before. It does seem to fit in quite well as it has a very industrial appearance about it
 
Saw the House of York on Charlotte Street today. But first noticed the Montgomerys sign.



The House of York is a Grade II listed building dating to 1840 - 1850.



Somehow never got photos of this building before.



Full view from the left.



House of York

Listing Text
CHARLOTTE STREET
1.
5104
Hockley B3
Nos 27 to 31 (consec)
SP 0687 SW 28/5
II
Circa 1840-50 works and warehousing with shopping to rear. No 31 is the 3
storey red brick range warehousing with shopping to top floor and rear. Low
pitch slate roof. Seven bays to ground and lst floor with close set range
of 13 windows to top floor. Brick plinth and ground floor painted up to deep
1st floor sill band, stucco sill band to top floor, moulded brick eaves.
4 x 3 pane windows to top floor, sashed one pane in depth; conventional glazing
bar sashes with flat gauged arches to ground and lst floors. Works entrance
and office door to east end of range, the latter of 4 panels with rectangular
3 pane fanlight in wood pilaster strip frame with consoles to cornice over.
A 2 bay rebuilt narrow link connects with the main office/showroom block,
slightly advanced from preceeding range, 3 storeys, 3 bay symmetrical front.
Stucco plinth and painted brick ground floor. Moulded stucco sill bands to
lst and 2nd floors; projecting moulded stucco cornice, brick parapet with
stucco coping. Doorway and ground and 1st floor windows curtained in segmental
gauged arched recesses, revealed sashes, glazing bars intact, with similar
segmental gauged brick arches. Segmental arched glazing bar sashes to 2nd
floor. Double 4 panel door with 3 pane fanlight approached by 3 steps.

Listing NGR: SP0635687255


This text is from the original listing, and may not necessarily reflect the current setting of the building.
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In 1880 Mrs Sarah Withers was a shopkeeper at 4 Charlotte Street, St Paul's Square. Any images of shopkeepers in St Paul's from about that time would be most welcome.
Cheers
 
My mom was born in a house on Charlotte street 1949. She lived there with her parents and her older and younger siblings - Surname Law. I think they moved from the house early 60's.

I think there were 3 terrace houses which backed onto the canel and I believe other family members also lived in these house.

If anyone has photos of these houses I would love to see them.

My nan worked in the Queens pub at the bottom of Charlotte Street, I like to go in there for a drink when I can to just imagine my nan working behind the bar.
 
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Logie1970 said:
My mom was born in a house on Charlotte street 1949. She lived there with her parents and her older and younger siblings - Surname Law. I think they moved from the house early 60's.

I think there were 3 terrace houses which backed onto the canel and I believe other family members also lived in these house.

If anyone has photos of these houses I would love to see them.

My nan worked in the Queens pub at the bottom of Charlotte Street, I like to go in there for a drink when I can to just imagine my nan working behind the bar.
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Hi - my Mom was also born in Charlotte Street. Family name King. The large house at the forefront of the photo is where they lived. This shows the side entrance boarded up. On the left side (as you look at it) was a blacksmith and on the other was a yard where handcarts were stored. I believe that the house where your family lived may be just a few doors further up the road. The houses backed onto the canal.
My grandparents used to drink in the pub - was it the Navigation?
 

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It appears then that your families may have been virtual neighbours. The Kings are listed at 102 Charlotte St and the Laws are listed at 104 on the ERs.

Slightly unfortunately for Logie, looking at the 1950 map, if the large house is 104 then 102 would have been the house with the white wall on the edge of the photo to the left of the blacksmith.
 
MWS said:
It appears then that your families may have been virtual neighbours. The Kings are listed at 102 Charlotte St and the Laws are listed at 104 on the ERs.

Slightly unfortunately for Logie, looking at the 1950 map, if the large house is 104 then 102 would have been the house with the white wall on the edge of the photo to the left of the blacksmith.
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From my limited memory - I didn't visit that often as a child - I believe Laws family house was next to the cart yard - i.e. the right hand side as you look at the photo. Don't know how this would relate number wise. But certainly very close neighbours.
 
In fact, as Logie suggested, it seems that they were more than neighbours. Winifred the wife of Alfred Law was born Winifred King and was the daughter Edward and Ada King.

So, if you are the great grandchild of Edward and Ada then you and Logie appear to be second cousins.
 
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