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Could anyone tell me if this Soldiers Memorial is still in Cannon Hill Park ?
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jennyann
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Yes, it is still there....somewhat battered and some bits missing. Here's a description........
https://pmsa.cch.kcl.ac.uk/BM/WMbiBIxx267.htm
https://pmsa.cch.kcl.ac.uk/BM/WMbiBIxx267.htm
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O.C.
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That was quick Jennyann, Thanks, just looked at the link you gave. Amazed it was unveiled by Lt.Gen.Sir
Ian Hamilton
Ian Hamilton
jennyann
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The statue was designed by the same chap who designed the statues in the Hall of Memory
apparently. Hope that the city does the necessary repairs. This statue was very costly even for the time it was erected. It's a shame to let these important memorials get overlooked.
apparently. Hope that the city does the necessary repairs. This statue was very costly even for the time it was erected. It's a shame to let these important memorials get overlooked.
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O.C.
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Be nice to see the change in it Oisin if you take it from the same position
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O.C.
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Well got down to the park at last to have a look at the Memorial and it is in great condition from all sides
except for two broken bayonets, which is to be expected, well done to the council or parks committee
Photo taken on 15th July 2006
except for two broken bayonets, which is to be expected, well done to the council or parks committee
Photo taken on 15th July 2006
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O.C.
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Oisin Any Idea if the Glacier Boulder which came from Arenig Mountains in the Ice Age is still in the park that was found in the bottom of the lake ? Photo 1900c
Oisin
gone but not forgotten
cromwell,
Sorry I didn't risk returning to this thread until I had the pictures. I went and got them today to find you'd beaten me to it. :-[
Yep that boulder is still there and there's also a remnant of a meteorite by the lake. The only thing that's missing is the mock windmill, used during the old Tulip Festival - that was burnt down by vandals years ago.
Anyway, just to prove I did get the photos, here's a couple...
Sorry I didn't risk returning to this thread until I had the pictures. I went and got them today to find you'd beaten me to it. :-[
Yep that boulder is still there and there's also a remnant of a meteorite by the lake. The only thing that's missing is the mock windmill, used during the old Tulip Festival - that was burnt down by vandals years ago.
Anyway, just to prove I did get the photos, here's a couple...
jennyann
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Thanks Oisin...doesn't it make you want to take a pail of water and a brush to clean up the plaque. Great to be able to read the inscription.
I have a programme with the Windmill at Cannon Hill Park somewhere. It must have been the booklet/programme for the Tulip Festival years and years ago.
I have a programme with the Windmill at Cannon Hill Park somewhere. It must have been the booklet/programme for the Tulip Festival years and years ago.
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Wendy
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Here's a 1906 postcard of the memorial with bayonet's in tact.
Pro Civitate
To serve
THe chap who designed the South Africa War Mermorial in Cannon Hill Park
The chap was one Albert Toft (1862-1949).
Toft was born in Hunters Lane, Handsworth (at that time a town to the west of Birmingham and definately not part of it!). He was a highly-regarded artist who had produced a marble statue of His Highness Rajah Sudhal deb Bahadur of Bamra, as well as the statues to Queen Victoria at Leamington Spa, South Shields and Nottingham and the statue of Edward VII in Birmingham, as well as the bronzes around the Hall of Memory.
Toft had worked for Wedgwood, studying at the art school in Henley in the evenings, and then at Newcastle under Lyme.
In 1881 he went to London to study at National Art Training School, under Edouard Lanteri (1848-1917). He set himself up with a London studio, producing first bas-reliefs and doing some black and white work, and then turning to portrait sculpture which were much sought after.
Fate Led is in the Walker Art Gallery, Liverpool and the Spirit of Contemplation is in the collection of the Laing Art Gallery, Newcastle. Examples of Toft's portrait sculpture are in Peterborough and the Captain Ball memorial in Nottingham.
Two other famed public works of his are the Welsh National Memorial in Cardiff and the Royal London Fusiliers Monument in Holborn, London.
He died in a nursing home at Downview Rd in Worthing, Sussex on 18 December 1949
Read more at:
https://glasgowsculpture.com/pg_biography.php?sub=toft_a
The chap was one Albert Toft (1862-1949).
Toft was born in Hunters Lane, Handsworth (at that time a town to the west of Birmingham and definately not part of it!). He was a highly-regarded artist who had produced a marble statue of His Highness Rajah Sudhal deb Bahadur of Bamra, as well as the statues to Queen Victoria at Leamington Spa, South Shields and Nottingham and the statue of Edward VII in Birmingham, as well as the bronzes around the Hall of Memory.
Toft had worked for Wedgwood, studying at the art school in Henley in the evenings, and then at Newcastle under Lyme.
In 1881 he went to London to study at National Art Training School, under Edouard Lanteri (1848-1917). He set himself up with a London studio, producing first bas-reliefs and doing some black and white work, and then turning to portrait sculpture which were much sought after.
Fate Led is in the Walker Art Gallery, Liverpool and the Spirit of Contemplation is in the collection of the Laing Art Gallery, Newcastle. Examples of Toft's portrait sculpture are in Peterborough and the Captain Ball memorial in Nottingham.
Two other famed public works of his are the Welsh National Memorial in Cardiff and the Royal London Fusiliers Monument in Holborn, London.
He died in a nursing home at Downview Rd in Worthing, Sussex on 18 December 1949
Read more at:
https://glasgowsculpture.com/pg_biography.php?sub=toft_a
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Wendy
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Pro Civitate, thank you for the very informative history of the sculpter of the statue. I will keep this information with my postcard.
maccalenny
proper brummie kid
hello to all
I am researching my husband's family, the Hardings. My father in law told me a family story that his great-grandfather Tom or Thomas Harding is on the War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park, as he fought in the Boer war. I cannot find a transcription of the names on the memorial anywhere - can anyone help? ( I think the family story is wrong as Tom was still alive in 1911, just checking that the soldiers on it are those who died, not just those who fought?)
hoping some one can help - this is the first time I have posted, but have used the site in my research a lot - so many thanks!
I am researching my husband's family, the Hardings. My father in law told me a family story that his great-grandfather Tom or Thomas Harding is on the War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park, as he fought in the Boer war. I cannot find a transcription of the names on the memorial anywhere - can anyone help? ( I think the family story is wrong as Tom was still alive in 1911, just checking that the soldiers on it are those who died, not just those who fought?)
hoping some one can help - this is the first time I have posted, but have used the site in my research a lot - so many thanks!
ladylinda
master brummie
The war memorial has the following inscription 'To the glorious memory of the SONS OF BIRMINGHAM who fell in South Africa 1890-1902 and to perpetuate the example of all who served in the war. This memorial is erected by their fellow citizens'
There is a bit more about the memorial on a previous thread
https://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2890
There is a bit more about the memorial on a previous thread
https://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2890
maccalenny
proper brummie kid
Hi, many thanks for this. So does that mean that names of soldiers who fought but did not died are on it? It sounds from the inscription as if it could. I'm a bit dubious about this Thomas Harding having gone to war as he was in his late 30s with a young family.
florence butler
master brummie
Hi Maccalenny...was in Canon Hill Park today and remembered your post so had a look at the Boer war memorial. All names listed contain only the initial of the Christian name... There was just one Pte. T Harding.
Kind regards...Florence
Kind regards...Florence
maccalenny
proper brummie kid
Thanks so much Florence, that was very kind of you! I'm no nearer knowing whether he was our T Harding or not yet, but at least I now know there is that name on the memorial - I'm very grateful.
Kate
Kate
ellbrown
ell brown on Flickr
I've got detailed photos of this Boer War Memorial.
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park. by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park. by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park. by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park - list of names by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park - list of names by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park - list of names by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park - to the Sons of Birmingham by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park. by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park. by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park. by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park - list of names by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park - list of names by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park - list of names by ell brown, on Flickr
Boer War Memorial in Cannon Hill Park - to the Sons of Birmingham by ell brown, on Flickr
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FBourne
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Hello all,
I'm not sure how to post this so that everyone sees, but I transcribed the names of the men from The Boer War memorial in Cannon Hill Park and they have now been added onto the page at roll-of-honour.com here:
https://www.roll-of-honour.com/Warwickshire/BirminghamBoerWar.html
Hope this is useful to those trying to find relatives.
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Wendy
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FBourne thank you very much for posting the link.
We on here are eternally greatful to all who transcribe old documents and make the available to all.
I hope some may find a lost relative it would be nice to know if they do.
We on here are eternally greatful to all who transcribe old documents and make the available to all.
I hope some may find a lost relative it would be nice to know if they do.
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FBourne
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Yes, i'd love to know!
I found a lost relative, but had the nerve wracking experience of waiting to visit and trying to find his name on the actual memorial - there was no transcription on the roll-of-honour site for this memorial, while nearly every other one, no matter how small was transcribed, so sad that Birmingham's hadn't been.
I decided I had to right a wrong and so submitted my list.
I found a lost relative, but had the nerve wracking experience of waiting to visit and trying to find his name on the actual memorial - there was no transcription on the roll-of-honour site for this memorial, while nearly every other one, no matter how small was transcribed, so sad that Birmingham's hadn't been.
I decided I had to right a wrong and so submitted my list.
The memorial in earlier times. Maybe the first image was just after 1918 as there are men in uniform standing alongside the memorial. The second image is from 1967 (maybe around the Tulip Festival?) Viv.
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Stitcher
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My Dad used to take us three lads and Mom to Cannon Hill and it was always the same. nice café, plenty of people fishing and very tranquil.
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