That's good, thanks Dave. Viv.
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200 years of Nelson in the Bull Ring
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Thanks Ell. Lots of interesting Nelson history in your photos. I think the uniform he wore at Trafalgar goes out on loan from the National Maritime Museum and does the rounds.
And of course we shouldn't forget the Birmingham Civic Society plaque to commemorate Nelson's Birmingham visit in 1802 accompanied by Emma and Sir William Hamilton.
On this occasion he stood in the main street and drank a toast: "Success to the town and trade of Birmingham and prosperity to its inhabitants". I get a sense that he certainly valued the industry of Birmingham. And there was clearly adoration for him; his visit sounds similar to a royal visit:
"They visited the makers of buttons and buckles, swords & whips, japanned ware & pins, sash window frames and stained glass. They went to The Theatre Royal, to Birmingham’s first museum on New Street and the Blue Coat Charity school" (Source https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2013/november/06/131106-foward-march )
They visited the Soho Manufactory. Matthew Boulton, a long time friend of Sir William, was ill at the time so they visited his bedside. They must therefore have also visited Soho House in Handsworth.
Emma Hamilton touchingly wrote after the visit "I will never forget Birmingham and it's dear, dear people"
Viv.
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And of course we shouldn't forget the Birmingham Civic Society plaque to commemorate Nelson's Birmingham visit in 1802 accompanied by Emma and Sir William Hamilton.
On this occasion he stood in the main street and drank a toast: "Success to the town and trade of Birmingham and prosperity to its inhabitants". I get a sense that he certainly valued the industry of Birmingham. And there was clearly adoration for him; his visit sounds similar to a royal visit:
"They visited the makers of buttons and buckles, swords & whips, japanned ware & pins, sash window frames and stained glass. They went to The Theatre Royal, to Birmingham’s first museum on New Street and the Blue Coat Charity school" (Source https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2013/november/06/131106-foward-march )
They visited the Soho Manufactory. Matthew Boulton, a long time friend of Sir William, was ill at the time so they visited his bedside. They must therefore have also visited Soho House in Handsworth.
Emma Hamilton touchingly wrote after the visit "I will never forget Birmingham and it's dear, dear people"
Viv.
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ellbrown
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No problem Viv! No new Nelson related pics this year!
Took that plaque years ago, but see it when ever I am on Temple Row!
List of Nelson plaques Horatio Nelson
Also find the Birmingham plaque here
Took that plaque years ago, but see it when ever I am on Temple Row!
List of Nelson plaques Horatio Nelson
Also find the Birmingham plaque here
Dave M
Pheasey Born Bumper
Great Dave. Good to see the marching, thought the naval cadets did very well. Think Nelson would have recruited all of them. Nelson's statue looks better than I remember it and seems to fit in well that position. A good focal point. Viv.
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ellbrown
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Statue of Nelson in the Bullring by ell brown, on Flickr
Statue of Nelson in the Bullring by ell brown, on Flickr
Photos previously posted above in 2010 (taken 2009).
Some more recent ones.
Starbucks view (not been back there - it's always too packed)
Compare to this coffee shop view from the 19th century!
Freeth's Coffee House at Birmingham History Galleries (seen November 2012).
Summer 2013 - Chiltern Railways advertising trains to London!
Construction of Special Street in 2011
Picture in the Birmingham History Galleries - seen November 2012
Those videos look good by the way Dave!
Nelson and St. Martin's still look very photogenic. Two iconic features hanging in there in the constantly changing Bull Ring over the last 60 years. Thanks for posting Dave and Ell. Viv.
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paul stacey
master brummie
Fantastic to see the Great man still held in such affection, and admiration, over 200 years after his death, keep the great history of these fantastic Islands upper most. Paul
paul stacey
master brummie
Well done Viv, there must have been a couple of hundred still going then. Paul
An old Birmingham Post article, but it gives a few interesting facts and figures from the National Archives about the crews of the ships. Not all came from coastal areas, some 120 were from the Midlands. Until reading this hadn't given much thought to the conflict for the Nation between rejoicing at the victory and mourning the loss of Nelson. Birmingham certainly made it's position clear on this being, not only the first to erect a statue to commemorate Nelson, but the first to pay for it by public subscription Viv.
https://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/local-news/midland-sailors-won-battle-trafalgar-6223760
https://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/local-news/midland-sailors-won-battle-trafalgar-6223760
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paul stacey
master brummie
Most interesting story, have now subscribed to the "Post". I always thought most British sailors would have come from , ports around our coasts, doubtless some were "Pressed Men", but there was a sever Agricultural depression in the early 19th C, so maybe some like those "Yokels" who were recruited by Wellingtons army, also joined the Royal Navy.Paul
ellbrown
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The only real new Nelson related photos I've taken during 2015 was the view of Paxton's Tower / Nelson's Tower seen from the National Botanic Garden of Wales
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can you tell why did nelson visit Birmingham in 1802? any strong connection? thanksLast week I went to the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, London. And I saw quite a few Nelson related objects. Such as the coat he wore when he died at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805.
Also saw a couple of portraits (one was at Queens House). And some models of Nelson's Column. I took photos of them but have not uploaded them yet.
In the meantime, enjoy my existing Nelson photos on my Flickr Horatio Nelson
WHY DID NELSON VISIT BIRMINGHAM IN 1802?
Radiorails
master brummie
The earlier posts 39 and 41 make interesting reading. Much of what the Royal Navy used - presumably from buttons to guns and more - were probably made in Birmingham. I expect Birmingham owed him something for the prosperity of the time and he likewise owed Birmingham much for the supplies that they manufactured. Just a guess.
Actually the whole thread makes a good read.
Actually the whole thread makes a good read.
