paul stacey
master brummie
The enhanced photo dos indeed say "Oakworth" but how or why is a complete mystery to me, have to agree with #29.
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No 12 BUS ROUTE
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jennyann
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Perhaps Michael Keeley who wrote the book about Birmingham Bus Routes might know about the No. 12 destination blind. I found this on another
transport thread on the Forum.
[h=2]Re: Birmingham Buses Route by Route 1925-1975[/h]
transport thread on the Forum.
[h=2]Re: Birmingham Buses Route by Route 1925-1975[/h]
I used to work for West Midlands Passenger Transport Executive at Summer Lane as well as Malcolm Keeley that wrote this book!
Malcolm can be contacted via the Birmingham Bus Museum at Wythall.
https://www.bammot.org.uk/
Malcolm can be contacted via the Birmingham Bus Museum at Wythall.
https://www.bammot.org.uk/
Radiorails
master brummie
This issue does not seem to have been solved!
Reference to the book mentioned in post 32 suggests that the blind is a little to high in the destination box and actually, whilst it does appear to read Oakworth, it is in fact Harborne. (same number of letters)
Some buses just used the wording Harborne or Bartley Green, but others went to California. Pictures shows the early post war style BCT buses, passing Chamberlain's statue in June 1962 with a blind stating: Harborne and Bartley Green 12. The other picture, October 1957 shows a bus in Harborne Road with a blind saying Harborne and California 12D.
Reference to the book mentioned in post 32 suggests that the blind is a little to high in the destination box and actually, whilst it does appear to read Oakworth, it is in fact Harborne. (same number of letters)
Some buses just used the wording Harborne or Bartley Green, but others went to California. Pictures shows the early post war style BCT buses, passing Chamberlain's statue in June 1962 with a blind stating: Harborne and Bartley Green 12. The other picture, October 1957 shows a bus in Harborne Road with a blind saying Harborne and California 12D.
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
Did anybody ever put the query to Malcolm Keeler. Yes (phil) it looks like Oakworth, but having read Radiorails and all my Birmingham Transport Books I have to agree with Post 34 and assume the blind has twisted slightly and it does say Harborne, although when you write Oakworth and then take out the top half of the letters and do the same with Harborne, the only glitch is the last letter all the others could be Harborn, but that last letter an h does not make an e (unless as they say someone knows better (and I am sure and I bow to the expertise I see on this forum, someone out there has the answer and thus does know better). Do the lower deck vents look peculiar to any one else? Or is it just light distortion? Strangely enough Google throws up Oakworth at No 7 Twatling Road Barnt Green.
Bob
Radiorails
master brummie
The previous post will tell you the suggested name for "oakworth".
Or, There is a Batley not far from Oakworth in Yorkshire.Perhaps the bus blind maker got confused as there is an Oakworth in Birmingham, Alabama
paul stacey
master brummie
Caught the No12 every day practically in the 5o's early 60's never saw or heard of the place, so I suspect a wrong sign writing job??
Lloyd
master brummie
Although this query has been covered above, I'd like to add the following.
This is a photograph which an artist has tried to make clearer for printing, and the 'Harborne' on the destination not being fully visible and the artist, probably not a Birmingham person, has taken a 'best guess' at. The picture was used on the front page of the Meccano Magazine
Solved!
paul stacey
master brummie
I have the Meccano magazine in question, and I think that is right.Paul
Certainly the same amount of letters
Dave Riley
master brummie
In case anyone was wondering what the article in the Meccano magazine was about here is the relevant pages......
pjmburns
master brummie
Work for me on phone and laptop.
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
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On the second page is a picture of a bus on route 12 and look at the destintion. I think the answer is as Lloyd says at #43 above.
Time for a new mystery please and Birminghsa city councillors have just announced the new estate next to Baetley Green, will be called Oakworth,
Bob
