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Richard woodward
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I worked at this Hawthorn road branch of Foster brothers 1965-66. Thanks for the photo. It brought back a lot of good memories.
Welcome Richard. Did you mean to post your comment to the Foster Brothers thread? If so I'll move it across for you. Viv.
Actongrumpy
The Quinton Kid
Hi David
Do you have any knowledge of an island just off the Hagley Road, in the middle of the junction of two roads opposite the Ivy Bush?
My father claimed that his father was the first taxi driver in Birmingham and that his ‘pitch’ was opposite the Ivy Bush. I found an old map that shows an area marked out for a cab stand in that position - no doubt for a horsedrawn cab. The story my father told was that his father parked his motor cab there but one day the council asked him to move because they needed to build a traffic island. He refused, saying he was there first, and they agreed a compromise. He parked at one end of the area while the council built half an island at the other end with a gap through it wide enough for a taxi. When that was completed, he moved his taxi in to it and the council built the other half behind him, again with a gap for his taxi. He continued to use this space as a cab stand for some years after but I don't know when it was demolished. I have searched for photographs of this island without any luck and the taxi archive records went up in smoke some years ago. I'm hoping someone has information about it.
DavidGrain
master brummie
Hi AstonGrumpy This is a view of the area today taken from Google. There still is an island between Vicarage Road, left, and (I think) Chad Road (right) but since they made both these roads one way there is little need for one side of the island although the occassional car does use it.
Actongrumpy
The Quinton Kid
Hi Dave
It's in about the right place but that's a modern island I would imagine. What I'm after is a photo taken before they made the Hagley Road a dual carriage way, which is many years ago. The position is shown on this old map.
Dave2
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Hi Aston crumpy
I am very sorry to say and i have to agree with david that is not the island facing the ivvy bush
i can remember the old ivy bush itself and the pub included
because where the little side road was the place was called the ivy bush was a huge are of bushes and also
i have to beleive some one lived on that land as there was roman type tiles on the ground of this property
for what ever the reason or what type of property it was in its hey day
It also included an orchard of pear and apple trees by the dozens and we was only little nippers bored
and we got chased by a copper through there we all scattered the other kids was running
It was like a jungle i seen the copper so i scampered up to the top of the tree and he was standing below me
looking around every think went quiet and he went
on that little road near to the corner of hagley road was a buning clock for the bus
i cannot be sure of the bus number but it took you to yardley cementry yardley in those days
It was a little narrow road with a wall running along side the buses
you could have come out of that road to intercept the road coming up from harborne
with hagley road running across just like the map you see , but there was no traffic lights in those days
eventualy they put some up and stopped that side road and cancelled that bus services as well from there
it was across the road from the ivy bush
as you will see from today coming out of the city and turn left at that juction as you knew then
as been repopened and its an only one way which will take you down to the botanicle gardens
the open you put the island is diverting up to quinton which is further down the line on
the hagley road
I am very sorry to say and i have to agree with david that is not the island facing the ivvy bush
i can remember the old ivy bush itself and the pub included
because where the little side road was the place was called the ivy bush was a huge are of bushes and also
i have to beleive some one lived on that land as there was roman type tiles on the ground of this property
for what ever the reason or what type of property it was in its hey day
It also included an orchard of pear and apple trees by the dozens and we was only little nippers bored
and we got chased by a copper through there we all scattered the other kids was running
It was like a jungle i seen the copper so i scampered up to the top of the tree and he was standing below me
looking around every think went quiet and he went
on that little road near to the corner of hagley road was a buning clock for the bus
i cannot be sure of the bus number but it took you to yardley cementry yardley in those days
It was a little narrow road with a wall running along side the buses
you could have come out of that road to intercept the road coming up from harborne
with hagley road running across just like the map you see , but there was no traffic lights in those days
eventualy they put some up and stopped that side road and cancelled that bus services as well from there
it was across the road from the ivy bush
as you will see from today coming out of the city and turn left at that juction as you knew then
as been repopened and its an only one way which will take you down to the botanicle gardens
the open you put the island is diverting up to quinton which is further down the line on
the hagley road
Actongrumpy
The Quinton Kid
Thanks for that. It's getting tantalizing close.
DavidGrain
master brummie
Thanks Alan (Astonian) The photo of the Plough and Harrow shows clearly the original building and the later extension. I did wonder when the extension was built.
Hi david
Avery old friend of mine worked there for years at the pub end as a bar tender before the hotel extension was added
he then was combind security for the whole complex o the plough and harrow
looking after the high society people whom came and stayed there and dined there
there was alot of show biz celebities used to stay there this is years before the albany hotel was built
also judge Arglie top circuit judge for the crimminal quarter sessions , how he always had a glass of milk every night
He used to tell me about the rich people carrying ons and there peformances
my mate was pat Malletts sadly he died quite afew years back now way back in the late eighties
before he died he left the plough and went to become the gaffer of the bear pub stratford road hall green
then he moved to the fox hollies fox hollie roads hall green after afew years there he left to a london brewery
a short stint there and he died best wishes Alan,, Astonian,,,,,
Avery old friend of mine worked there for years at the pub end as a bar tender before the hotel extension was added
he then was combind security for the whole complex o the plough and harrow
looking after the high society people whom came and stayed there and dined there
there was alot of show biz celebities used to stay there this is years before the albany hotel was built
also judge Arglie top circuit judge for the crimminal quarter sessions , how he always had a glass of milk every night
He used to tell me about the rich people carrying ons and there peformances
my mate was pat Malletts sadly he died quite afew years back now way back in the late eighties
before he died he left the plough and went to become the gaffer of the bear pub stratford road hall green
then he moved to the fox hollies fox hollie roads hall green after afew years there he left to a london brewery
a short stint there and he died best wishes Alan,, Astonian,,,,,
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
I suppose photographers were always more interested in photographing the Ivy Bush than the other side of the road.
Actongrumpy
The Quinton Kid
I live in hope.
Actongrumpy
The Quinton Kid
https://www.search.birminghamimages.org.uk/Details.aspx?&ResourceID=7976&SearchType=2&ThemeID=839
Another few feet right and my prayers might have been answered!
Another few feet right and my prayers might have been answered!
DavidGrain
master brummie
Two way traffic would date it before 1933
DavidGrain
master brummie
I had not realised how large a church was Christ Church as normally we see only full on photos from Paradise Street. Surprising to se shops on the lover level
...looks like daves photo shows the shops to the side of the church...the one showing the oyster rooms looks to be more to the front of the church
Lady Penelope
master brummie
Weren't there catacombs under Christchurch? If so, does that mean the shops backed onto them? I don't think I would have liked to work there if that's the case.
rosie
brummie
In my book by Joseph McKenna, he says Baskerville was re-interred in those catacombs, after his coffin was found at Easy Hill. There was a total of 139 burials and 106 of them including Baskerville were re-interred at Warstone Lane Cemetery Catacombs. (Last burial 1893).
I always thought it was a strange place to sell oysters!!
rosie.
I always thought it was a strange place to sell oysters!!
rosie.
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
This photo is tagged 'Wychall Lane 1956' with a nice view of a Co-Operative Coal lorry. Looking on Google Earth etc I've not been able to determine the exact location because of the large changes since the 1950s, cannot see any trace of the houses in the pic.. It looks very rural but the large Triplex Glass Factory was not far away.
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Radiorails
master brummie
I think the Co-Op lorry is I believe a coal delivery lorry.
It looks like the van (Austin?) in the background is lettered Birmingham Mail - but I could be wrong. If it is a Mail vehicle then maybe that is the transport the photographer of the pic was using.
The Triplex Glass factory I gather is at Kings Norton.
It looks like the van (Austin?) in the background is lettered Birmingham Mail - but I could be wrong. If it is a Mail vehicle then maybe that is the transport the photographer of the pic was using.
The Triplex Glass factory I gather is at Kings Norton.
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