20/3/17 I've now found out who Elizabeth Haynes married in 1923 -Albert Phillips Day-which is good as I've some Days that I need to tie into the tree!
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Still researching-not sure Ted Haynes the Butcher is related (although I bet they all are somewhere!!). Charles Haynes was a Midland Railway porter-apparently they were all dirt poor, my granny not even having a pair of shoes to go to school in! I believe they lived in Tilton Road at one point-there was a Tilton Road school so I'm presuming the children attended there. Apparently there are log books but possibly no photos so if you know of anyone with photos from Tilton road school 1901-1923 I'd love to see them.
MWS
from Bham
Are we talking about the Elizabeth who 'married' Charles Haynes? Because the Elizabeth Haynes who married Albert Day was born in 1900 and was herself a Haynes.
Darn!! Didn't realise that! I was excited that it was a Day she married because I was looking for that connection too!! Yes I'm wondering if my Elizabeth Haynes was 'married ' to Charles ha, ha!!! It's really the birth mother of my grandmother Dorothy Haynes that I'm looking for. She apparently died in childbirth -Charles being the natural father. Elsie and Dorothy were half-sisters and were the spit image of each other in photos so there is a blood connection I believe.
I've got Dorothy's marriage certificate which says she was 21 on 17th June 1919 but we believe that both of them told porkies-I think you had to be 21 to get married without your parents consent in those days? Apparently no-one checked ages! She'd signed up to the W.R.A.F at 16 I think and both Redvers and Dorothy were at Greenhill Camp Sheffield when they married. Father is stated as Charles Haynes, Railway messenger and listed as deceased. Dorothy's handwritten board of education certificate 23/6/15 says Elizabeth Haynes believes Dorothy's DOB is 16/6/01 . ( I think Charles Haynes signed it as his Haynes signature is the same as on the census).
The only verbal info (from my aunty) on Elsie is that she married a man called Sam and had Clive and Christine. Clive died quite young as a teenager I think. No surname at the moment.
The only verbal info (from my aunty) on Elsie is that she married a man called Sam and had Clive and Christine. Clive died quite young as a teenager I think. No surname at the moment.
MWS
from Bham
Going back to the 1911 census if Charles, Elizabeth, 'Dothy', Elsie and 'Emalia' are your Haynes family there seem to be a number of 'errors' on it.
Apart from the age and birthplace for Charles I would say everything else is suspect.
The year of Charles & Elizabeth's marriage.
Elizabeth's age and birthplace.
The birthplaces for the children - Amelia almost certainly as she was registered in Aston & Ladypool would be Birmingham.
How many children born & alive do the say they have on the census?
As I mentioned early there are a couple of baptisms on Ancestry that might be connected - one is for a Joseph Frederick Haynes 1908 at St Andrew, Bordesley (not far from Tilton Road). If the occupation and address match then that would identify Elizabeth. Have you got an Ancestry subscription, if not someone might be able to have a look.
Apart from the age and birthplace for Charles I would say everything else is suspect.
The year of Charles & Elizabeth's marriage.
Elizabeth's age and birthplace.
The birthplaces for the children - Amelia almost certainly as she was registered in Aston & Ladypool would be Birmingham.
How many children born & alive do the say they have on the census?
As I mentioned early there are a couple of baptisms on Ancestry that might be connected - one is for a Joseph Frederick Haynes 1908 at St Andrew, Bordesley (not far from Tilton Road). If the occupation and address match then that would identify Elizabeth. Have you got an Ancestry subscription, if not someone might be able to have a look.
Thank you very much! How you are finding these facts so quickly- I've been plodding through the docs on ancestry and still take ages to find anything unless it's hinted!
Thanks for your patience! I am on ancestry so will continue to search!Thank you very much! How you are finding these facts so quickly- I've been plodding through the docs on ancestry and still take ages to find anything unless it's hinted!
MWS
from Bham
Thank you very much! How you are finding these facts so quickly- I've been plodding through the docs on ancestry and still take ages to find anything unless it's hinted!
Just experience, the more you do the easier it becomes.
Hi,
I remember being told that the old white farmhouse which I believe still stands
on the corner of Beechcroft Road and Old Chester Road belonged to Ted Haynes.
Of course the surrounding land is now the Parkfields Estate, but I understand
he was there before the estate was built.
Kind regards
Dave.
I remember being told that the old white farmhouse which I believe still stands
on the corner of Beechcroft Road and Old Chester Road belonged to Ted Haynes.
Of course the surrounding land is now the Parkfields Estate, but I understand
he was there before the estate was built.
Kind regards
Dave.
Afternoon Adrian, I recently saw you post and was interested to find out more as i am the grandson of Horace Haynes, son of Edward James Haynes. Edward (Teddy) Horace's brother was also my Step Grandfather (he married my maternal grandmother after they met at my parents wedding)
